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Damn. I hadn't thought of that, Given Oil prices increasing too. US can profit from Europe from all of this and also pull it into the conflict. So I think that

Damn. I hadn't thought of that, Given Oil prices increasing too. US can profit from Europe from all of this and also pull it into the conflict. So I think that this is gonna be a massive loss for Europe/Sovereignity in general. That being said, I have also heard the opposite of it that it is not in profit for US either and I'd love a discussion about it too. So basically, Strait of hormuz being blocked and Iran is gonna most likely strike de-salination plants of middle eastern countries like Saudi Arabia too. Strait of hormuz is essential for food as 90% of food comes through this chokepoint which is essentially blocked now and with all of this combined. 2 weeks are some estimates that I hear that issues can come within the middle eastern countries. They got shit ton of oil but they can't feed their population oil. It puts direct pressure on the monarchy and other countries to stop the war as the population might revolt against the govt. to stop the war. Also doesn't help the religious aspects side of things as arabs are likely to step with iran in this war from the sentiment online that I see. So the pressure on Middle East countries to fight against US could very well mean the end of petro-dollar and the debasement of US dollar as the global currency as well. If the people in the middle-east can't drink water and can't eat food. Then a lot of factors change quite significantly

thisislife2 8mo ago
What you are describing will remain a last ditch, desperate, "scorched earth" policy option for Iran. Iran will not bomb the de-desalination plants or the oil infrastructures of its neighbours as that would be a direct attack on these countries. If it does, it wouldn't be just fighting Israel and US but ALL its neighbours who would be forced to join the war. Currently Iran's rational and policy (that it had communicated to their neighbours before the war) is that if any military infrastructure is used on their soil to attack Iran, it would be considered a legitimate target for retaliation. Nearly all of Iran's neighbours host American bases (and some also have American and Israeli intelligence apparatus operating from there) (Iran conducted no attack on neighbors, respects their sovereignty, interests: Army headquarters - https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2026/03/07/765072/Iran-conducted-no-attack-on-neighbors-respects-their-sovereignty-interests-Army-headquarters https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2026/03/07/765072/Iran-conduct... ). Iran has carefully chosen to target only these - the American military bases and some hotels and buildings where American and Israeli intelligence operate from. There have of course been some collateral damage, as Iran's missiles are not precise. But Iran has been very careful - for example, when an Iranian missile (or an intercepted piece of it) struck a Saudi oil infrastructure, Iran's government immediately called the Saudi government and apologised to them and claimed that the oil infrastructure was not the target. (Of course, the scenario you outlined is why Iran's neighbour haven't joined the war, despite their antagonistic relation with Iran).
- Imustaskforhelp 8mo ago
  I agree with you but I think there is more to it because At some point the problem for the Middle East countries is that Their food supply comes from this strait, and I don't think that no matter what, Iran will open up this street because of the immense leverage that Iran has been given by controlling this choke point. I think the subtext of all of this from the Iranian side to all the other Middle Eastern countries is that Israel and US cannot be trusted, and to we will attack the US, we will attack anything US based and to and that the Middle East countries should apply pressure for their own food security on US and Israel to stop the war. Another point is that Saudi Arabia was recently in the Washington Post Was being considered as part of this alliance of US and Israel, and that Saudi Arabia has a bigger impact in the war. So I think that Saudi Arabia has denied this, but still the fact that Washington Post is saying this means that there is some truth to this, and that the Iranian side could actually confirm it from their side. And this is still a bit messy, though. I think that Iran will do this course just earth policy without having the regime change for all what it's worth Iran's supreme leader was killed by the US. So I think that Iran will actually apply this coarse death policy if it ever really loses from the US. Another thing is that this war could maybe just continue on for years and years, but the problem with that is that at some point either the US has to win or it has to back out. And I mean it's all going to be very you know like pessimistic at home. And I don't even believe that even if US tries to withdraw now, like the whole region is so instabilized that I am unsure of how to bring stability back within the region if any. What are your thoughts on it?
  - thisislife2 7mo ago
    I am not denying that Iran uses that as a leverage on its neighbours to keep them in check. Shortage of food and water is definitely the worst fears of the Arabs everywhere.
- rasz 7mo ago
  > Iran will not bomb the de-desalination plants https://abcnews.com/US/wireStory/iranian-drone-damages-desalination-plant-bahrain-130872833 https://abcnews.com/US/wireStory/iranian-drone-damages-desal... > or the oil infrastructures of its neighbours https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-03/uae-reports-major-fire-at-fujairah-oil-hub-from-drone-debris https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-03/uae-repor... you were saying?

thisislife2 8mo ago

What you are describing will remain a last ditch, desperate, "scorched earth" policy option for Iran. Iran will not bomb the de-desalination plants or the oil infrastructures of its neighbours as that would be a direct attack on these countries. If it does, it wouldn't be just fighting Israel and US but ALL its neighbours who would be forced to join the war. Currently Iran's rational and policy (that it had communicated to their neighbours before the war) is that if any military infrastructure is used on their soil to attack Iran, it would be considered a legitimate target for retaliation. Nearly all of Iran's neighbours host American bases (and some also have American and Israeli intelligence apparatus operating from there) (Iran conducted no attack on neighbors, respects their sovereignty, interests: Army headquarters - https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2026/03/07/765072/Iran-conducted-no-attack-on-neighbors-respects-their-sovereignty-interests-Army-headquarters https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2026/03/07/765072/Iran-conduct... ). Iran has carefully chosen to target only these - the American military bases and some hotels and buildings where American and Israeli intelligence operate from. There have of course been some collateral damage, as Iran's missiles are not precise. But Iran has been very careful - for example, when an Iranian missile (or an intercepted piece of it) struck a Saudi oil infrastructure, Iran's government immediately called the Saudi government and apologised to them and claimed that the oil infrastructure was not the target. (Of course, the scenario you outlined is why Iran's neighbour haven't joined the war, despite their antagonistic relation with Iran).

Imustaskforhelp 8mo ago
I agree with you but I think there is more to it because At some point the problem for the Middle East countries is that Their food supply comes from this strait, and I don't think that no matter what, Iran will open up this street because of the immense leverage that Iran has been given by controlling this choke point. I think the subtext of all of this from the Iranian side to all the other Middle Eastern countries is that Israel and US cannot be trusted, and to we will attack the US, we will attack anything US based and to and that the Middle East countries should apply pressure for their own food security on US and Israel to stop the war. Another point is that Saudi Arabia was recently in the Washington Post Was being considered as part of this alliance of US and Israel, and that Saudi Arabia has a bigger impact in the war. So I think that Saudi Arabia has denied this, but still the fact that Washington Post is saying this means that there is some truth to this, and that the Iranian side could actually confirm it from their side. And this is still a bit messy, though. I think that Iran will do this course just earth policy without having the regime change for all what it's worth Iran's supreme leader was killed by the US. So I think that Iran will actually apply this coarse death policy if it ever really loses from the US. Another thing is that this war could maybe just continue on for years and years, but the problem with that is that at some point either the US has to win or it has to back out. And I mean it's all going to be very you know like pessimistic at home. And I don't even believe that even if US tries to withdraw now, like the whole region is so instabilized that I am unsure of how to bring stability back within the region if any. What are your thoughts on it?
- thisislife2 7mo ago
  I am not denying that Iran uses that as a leverage on its neighbours to keep them in check. Shortage of food and water is definitely the worst fears of the Arabs everywhere.
rasz 7mo ago
> Iran will not bomb the de-desalination plants https://abcnews.com/US/wireStory/iranian-drone-damages-desalination-plant-bahrain-130872833 https://abcnews.com/US/wireStory/iranian-drone-damages-desal... > or the oil infrastructures of its neighbours https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-03/uae-reports-major-fire-at-fujairah-oil-hub-from-drone-debris https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-03/uae-repor... you were saying?