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High oil prices currently benefits Russia ( Hormuz Shock Sends China and India Racing for Russian Crude - https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Hormuz-Shock-Sen

High oil prices currently benefits Russia ( Hormuz Shock Sends China and India Racing for Russian Crude - https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Hormuz-Shock-Sends-China-and-India-Racing-for-Russian-Crude.html https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Hormuz-Shock-Sends-Chi..., and thus gives them an incentive (in the short-term) to distance themselves from the Iranian conflict. It also benefits America, as gas prices have increased due to low supply and logistics issues ( https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Europes-Gas-Price-Set-for-Largest-Weekly-Gain-in-Three-Years.html https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Europes-G... ), and the US now meets 50-60% of Europe's gas energy requirements (after Russian gas was mostly banned there). So Europe will now be partially funding the Iran war as they have no alternate sources (except turning to Russia, which is currently unlikely). Thus, Europe will have no choice but to support the war against Iran too. Iran of course, has a huge gas reserve that Europe has desired to pipe to itself, which is why the Trump administration is bombing Iran. It hopes to control Iran's energy supply (as it now partially does Venezuela's) and sell that to Europe (so that Europe is forced to depend on the US and never attempts to build an economic relation with Russia, which could translate to a more independent Europe). Note that one of the stated goals of the Republican Party and the Trump administration is - Make America the dominant energy producer in the world, by far! and - Keep the US dollar as the world's reserve currency ( https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-pa... ). Both are linked - the only way the dollar can remain the reserve currency of the world is if the US control oil and gas production (petro-dollars). Iranians, in effect, are sadly doomed as victims of modern imperialism (and even face a possible genocide from the current genocidal regime of Israel, as they are unlikely to surrender without a fight). It all depends on how much destiny / luck will favour them. If the other Middle-East countries get really jittery, they will pressure the US to end the war. Or, better yet, Iran may still get to retain some of their sovereignty if they can effectively and successfully block the Strait of Hormuz - China will then be forced to get involved in the war, siding with Iran, as blocking of the Strait could mean the death knell for its economy (40-50% of China's and India's oil and gas is mported through it). If China gets involved, the Russian too would be willing to get involved in the military conflict. India would also be forced to choose a side. We would then see either Word War 3, or Iran falling into the Spheres of Influence of China and / or Russia.

Imustaskforhelp 8mo ago
Damn. I hadn't thought of that, Given Oil prices increasing too. US can profit from Europe from all of this and also pull it into the conflict. So I think that this is gonna be a massive loss for Europe/Sovereignity in general. That being said, I have also heard the opposite of it that it is not in profit for US either and I'd love a discussion about it too. So basically, Strait of hormuz being blocked and Iran is gonna most likely strike de-salination plants of middle eastern countries like Saudi Arabia too. Strait of hormuz is essential for food as 90% of food comes through this chokepoint which is essentially blocked now and with all of this combined. 2 weeks are some estimates that I hear that issues can come within the middle eastern countries. They got shit ton of oil but they can't feed their population oil. It puts direct pressure on the monarchy and other countries to stop the war as the population might revolt against the govt. to stop the war. Also doesn't help the religious aspects side of things as arabs are likely to step with iran in this war from the sentiment online that I see. So the pressure on Middle East countries to fight against US could very well mean the end of petro-dollar and the debasement of US dollar as the global currency as well. If the people in the middle-east can't drink water and can't eat food. Then a lot of factors change quite significantly
- thisislife2 8mo ago
  What you are describing will remain a last ditch, desperate, "scorched earth" policy option for Iran. Iran will not bomb the de-desalination plants or the oil infrastructures of its neighbours as that would be a direct attack on these countries. If it does, it wouldn't be just fighting Israel and US but ALL its neighbours who would be forced to join the war. Currently Iran's rational and policy (that it had communicated to their neighbours before the war) is that if any military infrastructure is used on their soil to attack Iran, it would be considered a legitimate target for retaliation. Nearly all of Iran's neighbours host American bases (and some also have American and Israeli intelligence apparatus operating from there) (Iran conducted no attack on neighbors, respects their sovereignty, interests: Army headquarters - https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2026/03/07/765072/Iran-conducted-no-attack-on-neighbors-respects-their-sovereignty-interests-Army-headquarters https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2026/03/07/765072/Iran-conduct... ). Iran has carefully chosen to target only these - the American military bases and some hotels and buildings where American and Israeli intelligence operate from. There have of course been some collateral damage, as Iran's missiles are not precise. But Iran has been very careful - for example, when an Iranian missile (or an intercepted piece of it) struck a Saudi oil infrastructure, Iran's government immediately called the Saudi government and apologised to them and claimed that the oil infrastructure was not the target. (Of course, the scenario you outlined is why Iran's neighbour haven't joined the war, despite their antagonistic relation with Iran).

Imustaskforhelp 8mo ago

Damn. I hadn't thought of that, Given Oil prices increasing too. US can profit from Europe from all of this and also pull it into the conflict. So I think that this is gonna be a massive loss for Europe/Sovereignity in general. That being said, I have also heard the opposite of it that it is not in profit for US either and I'd love a discussion about it too. So basically, Strait of hormuz being blocked and Iran is gonna most likely strike de-salination plants of middle eastern countries like Saudi Arabia too. Strait of hormuz is essential for food as 90% of food comes through this chokepoint which is essentially blocked now and with all of this combined. 2 weeks are some estimates that I hear that issues can come within the middle eastern countries. They got shit ton of oil but they can't feed their population oil. It puts direct pressure on the monarchy and other countries to stop the war as the population might revolt against the govt. to stop the war. Also doesn't help the religious aspects side of things as arabs are likely to step with iran in this war from the sentiment online that I see. So the pressure on Middle East countries to fight against US could very well mean the end of petro-dollar and the debasement of US dollar as the global currency as well. If the people in the middle-east can't drink water and can't eat food. Then a lot of factors change quite significantly

thisislife2 8mo ago
What you are describing will remain a last ditch, desperate, "scorched earth" policy option for Iran. Iran will not bomb the de-desalination plants or the oil infrastructures of its neighbours as that would be a direct attack on these countries. If it does, it wouldn't be just fighting Israel and US but ALL its neighbours who would be forced to join the war. Currently Iran's rational and policy (that it had communicated to their neighbours before the war) is that if any military infrastructure is used on their soil to attack Iran, it would be considered a legitimate target for retaliation. Nearly all of Iran's neighbours host American bases (and some also have American and Israeli intelligence apparatus operating from there) (Iran conducted no attack on neighbors, respects their sovereignty, interests: Army headquarters - https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2026/03/07/765072/Iran-conducted-no-attack-on-neighbors-respects-their-sovereignty-interests-Army-headquarters https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2026/03/07/765072/Iran-conduct... ). Iran has carefully chosen to target only these - the American military bases and some hotels and buildings where American and Israeli intelligence operate from. There have of course been some collateral damage, as Iran's missiles are not precise. But Iran has been very careful - for example, when an Iranian missile (or an intercepted piece of it) struck a Saudi oil infrastructure, Iran's government immediately called the Saudi government and apologised to them and claimed that the oil infrastructure was not the target. (Of course, the scenario you outlined is why Iran's neighbour haven't joined the war, despite their antagonistic relation with Iran).