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> Let them hire and fire people at will India is facing a weird problem. Everyone keeps increasing the notice period. Unlike the US where you can quit on the s

> Let them hire and fire people at will India is facing a weird problem. Everyone keeps increasing the notice period. Unlike the US where you can quit on the spot, Indian firms, almost all, have a 90 day notice period. But they rarely give offer letters to anyone who isn't already on notice period. So becomes the vicious cycle. Be on NP to get an offer letter. But who will risk resigning before getting an offer And then HRs as stupid questions like "you already have an offer why are you still looking for a change" while having zero self awareness that they are contributing to the cycle. If everyone made NP to be 15 days or 20 days then people will not get time to attend 100 interviews Moral of the story: nobody wants to take meaningful decisions. Everything thinks exclusively of the short term

sometimes_all 8mo ago
> India is facing a weird problem Corporate India is facing way too many weird problems, not just 90-day notice periods: 1. Refusal to provide leaving documents if you leave on less than excellent terms, but you absolutely need pristine docs and sometimes multiple references when joining 2. Salary expectations as compulsory form fields during job applications, but no salary ranges provided in job descriptions 3. An unhealthy approach to leaves - need doctor certificates, way too early notices for leaves more than a few days, too few leaves, etc. 4. A sudden leap in "immediate joining" requirements - you need to come at once, but you can only leave after at least 90 days 5. Playing games with insurance, salary deductions and compulsory contribution requirements to management's favorite CSR pots In the past few years I've become so frustrated that I just don't bother with large company job applications, or messages from Indian recruiters, because there's a 99% chance there's a really crappy process involved. Smaller firms with good founders / non-Indian consulting roles are a lot more relaxing, and most of the times pay is higher as well.
- thewhitetulip 8mo ago
  And they now need PAN and ADHAAR for even applying! And nobody ever gives early release for their employees.
ponector 8mo ago
In many EU countries it's common to have 3-6-month notice period and contacts with unlimited term. And somehow people are moving between companies. If you are not willing to wait 6 months for a new employee - just get a contractor.

sometimes_all 8mo ago

> India is facing a weird problem Corporate India is facing way too many weird problems, not just 90-day notice periods: 1. Refusal to provide leaving documents if you leave on less than excellent terms, but you absolutely need pristine docs and sometimes multiple references when joining 2. Salary expectations as compulsory form fields during job applications, but no salary ranges provided in job descriptions 3. An unhealthy approach to leaves - need doctor certificates, way too early notices for leaves more than a few days, too few leaves, etc. 4. A sudden leap in "immediate joining" requirements - you need to come at once, but you can only leave after at least 90 days 5. Playing games with insurance, salary deductions and compulsory contribution requirements to management's favorite CSR pots In the past few years I've become so frustrated that I just don't bother with large company job applications, or messages from Indian recruiters, because there's a 99% chance there's a really crappy process involved. Smaller firms with good founders / non-Indian consulting roles are a lot more relaxing, and most of the times pay is higher as well.

thewhitetulip 8mo ago
And they now need PAN and ADHAAR for even applying! And nobody ever gives early release for their employees.

ponector 8mo ago

In many EU countries it's common to have 3-6-month notice period and contacts with unlimited term. And somehow people are moving between companies. If you are not willing to wait 6 months for a new employee - just get a contractor.