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> Any idiot can now prompt their way to the same software. It may look the same, but it isn't the same. In fact if you took the time to truly learn how to do
by jv22222 7mo ago
> Any idiot can now prompt their way to the same software.
It may look the same, but it isn't the same.
In fact if you took the time to truly learn how to do pure agentic coding (not vibe coding) you would realize as a principal engineer you have an advantage over engineers with less experience.
The more war stories, the more generalist experience, the more you can help shape the llm to make really good code and while retaining control of every line.
This is an unprecedented opportunity for experienced devs to use their hard won experience to level themselves up to the equivalence of a full team of google devs.
- kazinator 7mo ago> while retaining control of every line What I want when I'm coding, especially on open source side projects, is to retain copyright licensing over every line (cleanly, without lying about anything). Whoops!
- jv22222 7mo agoHmm. TIL: The real exposure isn't Anthropic, OpenIA claiming your code, it's you unknowingly distributing someone else's GPL code because the model silently reproduced it, with essentially zero recourse for the model owner.
- ad_hockey 7mo agoIt depends on your plan, but Google[1] and Anthropic[2] at least provide indemnity against this. Haven't checked the others. Still not a situation you want to find yourself in, though. [1] https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/protecting-customers-with-generative-ai-indemnification https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/p... [2] https://www.anthropic.com/news/expanded-legal-protections-api-improvements https://www.anthropic.com/news/expanded-legal-protections-ap...
- kazinator 7mo ago> Under the updated terms, we will defend our customers from any copyright infringement claim made against them for their authorized use of our services or their outputs, and we will pay for any approved settlements or judgments that result "We are going to use our deep billionaire pockets to squash the fucker artist who dares identify something of his that we stole, that made its way into your output ..."
- satvikpendem 7mo agoI wonder why people still believe in intellectual property, it's a concept that has long since lived past its usefulness, especially technologically.
- bitwize 7mo agoBecause IP democratizes returns on the creative process.
- satvikpendem 7mo agoMaybe it used to but with companies like Disney lengthening copyright times way beyond the original intention, or corporations patenting absurd things, it seems to be more of a way to entrench power than any sort of democratization. I'm glad generative AI seem to be bypassing all this and actually democratizing returns on the creative process, by flagrantly violating the concept of IP.
- kazinator 7mo agoIn the case of BSD-like licenses, IP is applied in a way that discourages plagiarism, while giving all the practical freedoms to the users, including making proprietary products. In the case of copyleft licenses like GPL, IP is applied in a way to ensure that users have the code. These things are taken away when the code is laundered through AI.
- bitwize 7mo agoAgain, start talking to people outside the field of programming and ask them how they like it when their labor of passion is "democratized" by AI turning it into unattributable slurry.
- satvikpendem 7mo agoI don't really care how they like it because it's not up to them how I use the tools I want to use. It's literally the same argument photographers faced 100 years ago and in another 100 years I guarantee no one will be talking about AI in the terms you are today.