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Does anyone offer a live (paid) LLM chatbot / video generation / etc that is completely uncensored? Like not requiring doing any work except just paying for it?

nomel 8mo ago
Grok was one of the closest, with expected results: bad PR from the obvious use cases that come with little censorship.
mapontosevenths 8mo ago
Nous Hermes was built from the ground up to be uncensored. No abliteration required. Its not a frontier model but it will give you a feel for what its like.
pjc50 8mo ago
Does anyone offering such a thing bear liability if the model induces a crime?
- dragonwriter 8mo ago
  Someone offering a completely uncensored chatbot or image/video generation service is probably either committing, or at risk of committing, crimes directly, which may be a more pressing concern than having liability for inducing a third party to commit a crime. Even jurisdictions with relatively broad expressive freedoms tend not to tolerate distribution (especially commercial distribution) of all conceivable content.
dragonwriter 8mo ago
> Does anyone offer a live (paid) LLM chatbot / video generation / etc that is completely uncensored? Probably not, because if it is completely uncensored, it would probably violate the law (in different ways) in every possible jurisdiction.. (Also, one common method of censorship is exclusion of particular types of content from the training set, so to be completely free of that kind of censorship, there would have to be no content intentionally excluded from the training set.) In general, paid services are censored not only to attempt to meet the laws in all jurisdictions of concern to the provider, but also to try to be safe with regard to the (shiifting) demands of payment processors, and to try to maintain the PR image of the provider.

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Does anyone offer a live (paid) LLM chatbot / video generation / etc that is completely uncensored? Like not requiring doing any work except just paying for it?

by SilverElfin 8mo ago

nomel 8mo ago
Grok was one of the closest, with expected results: bad PR from the obvious use cases that come with little censorship.
mapontosevenths 8mo ago
Nous Hermes was built from the ground up to be uncensored. No abliteration required. Its not a frontier model but it will give you a feel for what its like.
pjc50 8mo ago
Does anyone offering such a thing bear liability if the model induces a crime?
- dragonwriter 8mo ago
  Someone offering a completely uncensored chatbot or image/video generation service is probably either committing, or at risk of committing, crimes directly, which may be a more pressing concern than having liability for inducing a third party to commit a crime. Even jurisdictions with relatively broad expressive freedoms tend not to tolerate distribution (especially commercial distribution) of all conceivable content.
dragonwriter 8mo ago
> Does anyone offer a live (paid) LLM chatbot / video generation / etc that is completely uncensored? Probably not, because if it is completely uncensored, it would probably violate the law (in different ways) in every possible jurisdiction.. (Also, one common method of censorship is exclusion of particular types of content from the training set, so to be completely free of that kind of censorship, there would have to be no content intentionally excluded from the training set.) In general, paid services are censored not only to attempt to meet the laws in all jurisdictions of concern to the provider, but also to try to be safe with regard to the (shiifting) demands of payment processors, and to try to maintain the PR image of the provider.