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Reporting from the CBC mentioned that the school was located within an area surrounded by other military buildings. The building housing the school was used for

Reporting from the CBC mentioned that the school was located within an area surrounded by other military buildings. The building housing the school was used for military purposes in the past. I think it's more likely that the US was going off of outdated intelligence.

jihadjihad 7mo ago
Yeah, Occam's Razor and all that. The current admin has proven itself to be poor players of games like checkers, let alone 5D chess.
- mylifeandtimes 7mo ago
  Sounds more like Bloody Stupid Jonssons Razor than Occams razor. The dumbest possible explanation is probably right.
jiggawatts 7mo ago
Many similar incidents occurred in Ukraine, where Russia targeted apartment blocks that were built on the former site of some sort of military building that was demolished decades ago. The ultimate hubris is launching a multi million dollar missile to kill civilians because you couldn’t be bothered to check Google street view (or whatever).
- lawn 7mo ago
  Russia actively targets hospitals, fire departments and schools for years and you attribute it to "outdated info". Shame on you.
  - jiggawatts 7mo ago
    It was quite obviously outdated info. What people don’t seem to understand is the word “targeted”. They see some obviously civilian target in ruins with screaming parents outside and they have an instant visceral emotional reaction: “What kind of monster would do something like this on purpose!?” Practically nobody targets civilian building with expensive precision munitions! They’re expensive! There’s limited supply! Targets are chosen to maximise the military effect. The problem is that the victims and journalists have “boots on the ground”. They’re right there and can clearly see the civilian nature of the target with their own eyes. The person doing the targeting from som bunker thousands of miles away can see only blurry rectangles on an outdated map, has sparse intelligence reports, and targets coordinates. They’re not walking up to the missile like it’s some sort of intelligent war animal and whispering “kill civilians!” in its ear. Similarly, they’re not on the ground standing outside the civilian target waving the missile in with light sticks like some airport tarmac staff. I repeat: they’re thousands of miles away and have to target hundreds of buildings that all look the same-ish from space and aren’t magically labelled by God as “no longer valid under the Geneva conventions” or whatever. I’m not saying that this makes war good or in any way ethical, but you can see how a mistake is made that doesn’t require cartoonish evil people to explain.
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    - lawn 7mo ago
      Terrorbombning is a thing, you should look it up.
      - jiggawatts 7mo ago
        Oh sure, and the US did it against both Japan and Germany in WW2, but those were not even remotely the same scenario as precision strikes against the IRGC and Iranian leadership in general. This was clearly a horrific mistake, especially obvious since the girls school used to be a military building.
        lawn 7mo ago
        I was talking about Russia, not US incompetence or malice, who have an explicit tactic to target civilians.
        jiggawatts 7mo ago
        They target civilian infrastructure like power plants and the like, but again, that's "not the same" as purposefully targeting a school or an apartment block. The latter they do fairly clearly by accident, because I've seen at least four video clips of Ukranians interviewed outside of a bombed civilian building saying something to the effect of "Oh yeah, back in 1990 there was a military training facility here but it was demolished in `91." Note that 1991 was the year Ukraine and Russia split and Russia stopped getting a "direct feed" of things like urban planning information from Kiev.
        mullingitover 7mo ago
        > civilian infrastructure like power plants The Russians have bombed multiple children’s hospitals.
  - petre 7mo ago
    You forgot about churches and shopping malls.
ynac 7mo ago
Agreed with others here...and updating intel for primary targets is customary. Which obviously didn't happen here. The targeting cycle and the F2T2 cycle, dynamic targeting loops (probably) should have brought the latest intel about the school to light. As for whether it was AI - the US DOD Ethic's first tenent is Responsible - personnel remain responsible...
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lukan 7mo ago
Here is a bit more info: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/questions-over-minab-girls-school-strike-as-israel-us-deny-involvement https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/questions-over-minab... "It can be said with a degree of confidence that, in 2013, the site was used exclusively as a military barracks with a strict security character, as there was no indication of an independent civilian use of any part of the complex. But this changed radically in 2016. Satellite images dated September 6, 2016 capture the main turning point, when new internal walls were created and built, fully and tightly separating the school building area from the rest of the military block." If they work with intelligence data older than 10 years, then this would still account to gross negligence, possibly counting as a war crime. But misstakes happen and they did used AI for target tracking. But the other interpretation is more dark. Because it was not just some school, but a school where the children of the IRGC go, the elite of the system. And Trump said he does not want a regime change, but rather someone from the current system who just bows to US demands. So the threat of killing all the leadership, anyone could be next - but also the threat to kill also their children and familiy until they surrender. To quote Hegseth: "no stupid rules of engagement,” “no politically correct wars,” and “no nation-building quagmire.” Threatening to kill also their families makes sense with this kind of language and logic. At some point you will find someone who values the life of his family higher than that of the nation and religion. But I do hope my theory is wrong.
- vunderba 7mo ago
  When I saw that interview I immediately thought, people like Hegseth are why treaties like the Geneva Convention were created in the first place.
  - surgical_fire 7mo ago
    People like Hegseth is why you sometimes need Nuremberg trials too.
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fakedang 7mo ago
> I think it's more likely that the US was going off of outdated intelligence. While Israel has enough intelligence to track where the Ayatollah is hidden away after the initial strikes on Iran. Does that sound believable to you? Either Israel and USA are pisspoor at coordinating intelligence, or Israel wilfully let the US attack the place and take the flak for it.

jihadjihad 7mo ago

Yeah, Occam's Razor and all that. The current admin has proven itself to be poor players of games like checkers, let alone 5D chess.

mylifeandtimes 7mo ago
Sounds more like Bloody Stupid Jonssons Razor than Occams razor. The dumbest possible explanation is probably right.

jiggawatts 7mo ago

Many similar incidents occurred in Ukraine, where Russia targeted apartment blocks that were built on the former site of some sort of military building that was demolished decades ago. The ultimate hubris is launching a multi million dollar missile to kill civilians because you couldn’t be bothered to check Google street view (or whatever).

lawn 7mo ago
Russia actively targets hospitals, fire departments and schools for years and you attribute it to "outdated info". Shame on you.
- jiggawatts 7mo ago
  It was quite obviously outdated info. What people don’t seem to understand is the word “targeted”. They see some obviously civilian target in ruins with screaming parents outside and they have an instant visceral emotional reaction: “What kind of monster would do something like this on purpose!?” Practically nobody targets civilian building with expensive precision munitions! They’re expensive! There’s limited supply! Targets are chosen to maximise the military effect. The problem is that the victims and journalists have “boots on the ground”. They’re right there and can clearly see the civilian nature of the target with their own eyes. The person doing the targeting from som bunker thousands of miles away can see only blurry rectangles on an outdated map, has sparse intelligence reports, and targets coordinates. They’re not walking up to the missile like it’s some sort of intelligent war animal and whispering “kill civilians!” in its ear. Similarly, they’re not on the ground standing outside the civilian target waving the missile in with light sticks like some airport tarmac staff. I repeat: they’re thousands of miles away and have to target hundreds of buildings that all look the same-ish from space and aren’t magically labelled by God as “no longer valid under the Geneva conventions” or whatever. I’m not saying that this makes war good or in any way ethical, but you can see how a mistake is made that doesn’t require cartoonish evil people to explain.
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  - lawn 7mo ago
    Terrorbombning is a thing, you should look it up.
    - jiggawatts 7mo ago
      Oh sure, and the US did it against both Japan and Germany in WW2, but those were not even remotely the same scenario as precision strikes against the IRGC and Iranian leadership in general. This was clearly a horrific mistake, especially obvious since the girls school used to be a military building.
      - lawn 7mo ago
        I was talking about Russia, not US incompetence or malice, who have an explicit tactic to target civilians.
        jiggawatts 7mo ago
        They target civilian infrastructure like power plants and the like, but again, that's "not the same" as purposefully targeting a school or an apartment block. The latter they do fairly clearly by accident, because I've seen at least four video clips of Ukranians interviewed outside of a bombed civilian building saying something to the effect of "Oh yeah, back in 1990 there was a military training facility here but it was demolished in `91." Note that 1991 was the year Ukraine and Russia split and Russia stopped getting a "direct feed" of things like urban planning information from Kiev.
        mullingitover 7mo ago
        > civilian infrastructure like power plants The Russians have bombed multiple children’s hospitals.
- petre 7mo ago
  You forgot about churches and shopping malls.

ynac 7mo ago

Agreed with others here...and updating intel for primary targets is customary. Which obviously didn't happen here. The targeting cycle and the F2T2 cycle, dynamic targeting loops (probably) should have brought the latest intel about the school to light. As for whether it was AI - the US DOD Ethic's first tenent is Responsible - personnel remain responsible...

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lukan 7mo ago

Here is a bit more info: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/questions-over-minab-girls-school-strike-as-israel-us-deny-involvement https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/questions-over-minab... "It can be said with a degree of confidence that, in 2013, the site was used exclusively as a military barracks with a strict security character, as there was no indication of an independent civilian use of any part of the complex. But this changed radically in 2016. Satellite images dated September 6, 2016 capture the main turning point, when new internal walls were created and built, fully and tightly separating the school building area from the rest of the military block." If they work with intelligence data older than 10 years, then this would still account to gross negligence, possibly counting as a war crime. But misstakes happen and they did used AI for target tracking. But the other interpretation is more dark. Because it was not just some school, but a school where the children of the IRGC go, the elite of the system. And Trump said he does not want a regime change, but rather someone from the current system who just bows to US demands. So the threat of killing all the leadership, anyone could be next - but also the threat to kill also their children and familiy until they surrender. To quote Hegseth: "no stupid rules of engagement,” “no politically correct wars,” and “no nation-building quagmire.” Threatening to kill also their families makes sense with this kind of language and logic. At some point you will find someone who values the life of his family higher than that of the nation and religion. But I do hope my theory is wrong.

vunderba 7mo ago
When I saw that interview I immediately thought, people like Hegseth are why treaties like the Geneva Convention were created in the first place.
- surgical_fire 7mo ago
  People like Hegseth is why you sometimes need Nuremberg trials too.
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fakedang 7mo ago

> I think it's more likely that the US was going off of outdated intelligence. While Israel has enough intelligence to track where the Ayatollah is hidden away after the initial strikes on Iran. Does that sound believable to you? Either Israel and USA are pisspoor at coordinating intelligence, or Israel wilfully let the US attack the place and take the flak for it.