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We could chop of a quarter of total emissions (directly + rewilding effect) by ending factory animal production and swapping to plant based. Another quarter fr

by shrubby 7mo ago

We could chop of a quarter of total emissions (directly + rewilding effect) by ending factory animal production and swapping to plant based. Another quarter from the top 5 percent emissions that have practically nothing to do with the wellbeing, but only social comparison mechanisms (envy, herd mentality). But for that humanity would need leaders that are not either idiots, corrupt or spineless and toothless. But hey, I guess that's too much to ask, after all we're talking about unconscious reactive species that's only rumored to have brains or morals.

xandrius 7mo ago
I can barely get some people to do a week off eating red meat, imagine going cold turkey completely. If people haven't revolted about other stuff they definitely will for saving their meat consumption.
- bakies 7mo ago
  I think lab grown may be getting more promising?
- shrubby 7mo ago
  People are guided by two things. What others do first and after some programming what they're used to or comoulswd or addicted. So not a conscious one. Vietnam war shows us what's possible in terms of collective change. During the Vietnam War, heroin usage among U.S. enlisted men was high, with estimates indicating that 34% to 43% of service members tried the drug, and roughly 10% to 20% were addicted. Nixon was in panic about bringing heroin addicted killers back home. Which they did. And nothing happened. The ones who had issues before leaving to Nam continued using but almost everyone who started there quit and perhaps tried again. With conscious design of the society I don't think there's any habit we can't change should we decide. Just remove the AG subsidies and this will be mostly fixed in no time. We just need to collectively make a connection with the future outcome and Bob's your uncle.
JackSlateur 7mo ago
Do you know what it takes for plants to grow ? fertilizer Do you know how can fertilizer be produced without animals ? Oil

by shrubby 7mo ago

xandrius 7mo ago

I can barely get some people to do a week off eating red meat, imagine going cold turkey completely. If people haven't revolted about other stuff they definitely will for saving their meat consumption.

bakies 7mo ago
I think lab grown may be getting more promising?
shrubby 7mo ago
People are guided by two things. What others do first and after some programming what they're used to or comoulswd or addicted. So not a conscious one. Vietnam war shows us what's possible in terms of collective change. During the Vietnam War, heroin usage among U.S. enlisted men was high, with estimates indicating that 34% to 43% of service members tried the drug, and roughly 10% to 20% were addicted. Nixon was in panic about bringing heroin addicted killers back home. Which they did. And nothing happened. The ones who had issues before leaving to Nam continued using but almost everyone who started there quit and perhaps tried again. With conscious design of the society I don't think there's any habit we can't change should we decide. Just remove the AG subsidies and this will be mostly fixed in no time. We just need to collectively make a connection with the future outcome and Bob's your uncle.

JackSlateur 7mo ago

Do you know what it takes for plants to grow ? fertilizer Do you know how can fertilizer be produced without animals ? Oil