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> And it doesn't apply to anyone who isn't the president. They have a cool loophole for it. President can pardon those who commit crimes he asks them to commit

> And it doesn't apply to anyone who isn't the president. They have a cool loophole for it. President can pardon those who commit crimes he asks them to commit. See what he did for thousands of insurrectionists and a lot of his friends who bribed him.

readthenotes1 7mo ago
The strangest "The President is not King but we give home this power of a King" section in the Constitution.
- salawat 7mo ago
  It isn't strange per se. The Chief executor by definition has discretion. The thing that's gone haywire now is that discretion is being used in a repugnant manner to most actually sane people.
  - p_j_w 7mo ago
    >The thing that's gone haywire now is that discretion is being used in a repugnant manner to most actually sane people. This was probably expected. What wasn't expected is that voters would put the people doing this back into office AFTER they had done it.
    - cheema33 7mo ago
      > What wasn't expected is that voters would put the people doing this back into office AFTER they had done it. Through this entire experience, the greatest revelation for me has been this: There is a very large number of massively stupid people who live among us. Much more so than most of us expected.
- gzread 7mo ago
  It's one of several "checks and balances" whereby one branch can override another branch, in this case the executive can override the judicial. Congress (the legislative) can override the executive too, by firing the President if they feel he's breaking too many laws (or indeed for any reason they want). It's a wonder they haven't chosen to. It indicates Congress approves of what the President is doing.
  - jjtwixman 7mo ago
    I think this is sort of final proof that electing a king for four years with more or less total power as the presidential system outlines is fundamentally a shit system.
    - PaulDavisThe1st 7mo ago
      This is just a new (and primarily conservative) interpretation of the system (the so-called "unitary executive" theory). There's a different interpretation where the existing laws constrain the executive, there is no "unitary executive", and the result is a highly constrained presidency. E.g. Biden attempting to use explicit language written by Congress to do something and being told he could not do so by the judiciary (for "reasons").

readthenotes1 7mo ago

The strangest "The President is not King but we give home this power of a King" section in the Constitution.

salawat 7mo ago
It isn't strange per se. The Chief executor by definition has discretion. The thing that's gone haywire now is that discretion is being used in a repugnant manner to most actually sane people.
- p_j_w 7mo ago
  >The thing that's gone haywire now is that discretion is being used in a repugnant manner to most actually sane people. This was probably expected. What wasn't expected is that voters would put the people doing this back into office AFTER they had done it.
  - cheema33 7mo ago
    > What wasn't expected is that voters would put the people doing this back into office AFTER they had done it. Through this entire experience, the greatest revelation for me has been this: There is a very large number of massively stupid people who live among us. Much more so than most of us expected.
gzread 7mo ago
It's one of several "checks and balances" whereby one branch can override another branch, in this case the executive can override the judicial. Congress (the legislative) can override the executive too, by firing the President if they feel he's breaking too many laws (or indeed for any reason they want). It's a wonder they haven't chosen to. It indicates Congress approves of what the President is doing.
- jjtwixman 7mo ago
  I think this is sort of final proof that electing a king for four years with more or less total power as the presidential system outlines is fundamentally a shit system.
  - PaulDavisThe1st 7mo ago
    This is just a new (and primarily conservative) interpretation of the system (the so-called "unitary executive" theory). There's a different interpretation where the existing laws constrain the executive, there is no "unitary executive", and the result is a highly constrained presidency. E.g. Biden attempting to use explicit language written by Congress to do something and being told he could not do so by the judiciary (for "reasons").