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Russia is aiding Iran's war effort by providing Intel on US Military targets

22 points by petethomas 8mo ago

MisterTea 8mo ago
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like_any_other 8mo ago
Calling it "Iran's war effort" just feels wrong.
- JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
  > Calling it "Iran's war effort" just feels wrong Iran’s [war effort]. Not [Iran’s war] effort.
  - drysine 8mo ago
    "Iran's defense effort" would be correct. They are defending against American Department of War (former Department of Defense).
    - JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
      > "Iran's defense effort" would be correct They’re at war. It’s a war effort. Mincing words doesn’t change that. America didn’t wage a defense against Japan after Pearl Harbor, it waged war. War is both offensive and defensive, the original language is fine.
      - drysine 8mo ago
        It matters who started the war. The US is waging the war against Iran, the Iran is defending. If you don't make this distinction, a killer and a policemen who shot him are both murderers.
- maximinus_thrax 8mo ago
  Not defending what the DoD is doing right now, I firmly believe the US intervention is unconstitutional, BUT Iran has been 'at war' with the west for a very long time. It's time to redefine the concept of war to be compatible with the 21st century and also include hybrid warfare and war-by-proxy. Iran has been waging war using Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas-aligned factions, Iraqi militias and the consistent aid it gave Russia through the Shahed drone program which is targeting civilians in Ukraine. And I don't even want to go into details about the war Iran is fighting against its own citizens. I hate to quote Hegseth, but this is the FO phase of the FAFO cycle.
sleepyguy 8mo ago
Some speculation....I think the long term plan here is Iran launching Shadeeds from the back of a pickups into the gulf states every few days until it wears out both Gulf and American missile defense. 100's of Drones every week targeting Refineries, LNG Gas terminals, Data Centers, Hotels, etc, just like the Russians do to Kyiv every night. The only thing that can stop it will be a ground invasion. Russia and China have the USA right where they want them unless there is a regime collapse (highly unlikely) or a ground invasion (more likely). The Gulf States will be exhausted and the USA will be ground down defending them. There is also a supply route through the Caspian for China and Russia to bolster Iranian defense. Is the USA willing to invade Russia to stop it? This is much bigger than most Americans can comprehend at the moment, no one has ever won a war with just an air assault. Iran is twice as big as Iraq, and Israel and the USA have thrown everything they can at it short of a Nuclear bomb and it is still standing. Just saying...
- JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
  > the long term plan here is Iran launching Shadeeds from the back of a pickups into the gulf states every few days The long-term outcome is Iran’s domestic drone production gets decimated. If America, meanwhile, gets to field test its new anti-drone kit, from gun- and laser-based platforms to kamikaze drones. > only thing that can stop it will be a ground invasion Of course not. You blow up the factories and inventory. Ukraine was prohibited by Biden for ages from striking inside Russia, to where the drones and missiles were being made. > There is also a supply route through the Caspian for China and Russia to bolster Iranian defense. Is the USA willing to invade Russia to stop it? The pressure point on Putin is tasking the Coast Guard with seizing Russian shadow-fleet tankers again. > no one has ever won a war with just an air assault No one has ever effected regime change with just air power. America could absolutely achieve a war aim with air power alone once Hegseth gets around to defining it.
  - 10000truths 8mo ago
    > The long-term outcome is Iran’s domestic drone production gets decimated. That is impossible without committing to boots on the ground. > Of course not. You blow up the factories and inventory. Where are the factories? Where are the stockpiles? If they don't show up on satellite imagery, how do you find them? Boots on the ground. If they're hidden underground or beneath a mountain, how do you blow them up? Boots on the ground. > No one has ever effected regime change with just air power. America could absolutely achieve a war aim with air power alone once Hegseth gets around to defining it. The reason he hasn't gotten around to defining a war aim is that there is no legitimate war aim. Netanyahu wanted to blow shit up and the Pentagon foolishly followed along instead of telling him "you're on your own".
rasz 8mo ago
The retaliation will be swift and severe, in form of /checks notes removing oil sanctions from russia https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5772316-oil-prices-russia-india-iran-bessent/ https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5772316-oil-pr... https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-could-lift-sanctions-more-russian-oil-says-bessent-2026-03-06/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-could-lift-sancti...

22 points by petethomas 8mo ago

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like_any_other 8mo ago

Calling it "Iran's war effort" just feels wrong.

JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
> Calling it "Iran's war effort" just feels wrong Iran’s [war effort]. Not [Iran’s war] effort.
- drysine 8mo ago
  "Iran's defense effort" would be correct. They are defending against American Department of War (former Department of Defense).
  - JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
    > "Iran's defense effort" would be correct They’re at war. It’s a war effort. Mincing words doesn’t change that. America didn’t wage a defense against Japan after Pearl Harbor, it waged war. War is both offensive and defensive, the original language is fine.
    - drysine 8mo ago
      It matters who started the war. The US is waging the war against Iran, the Iran is defending. If you don't make this distinction, a killer and a policemen who shot him are both murderers.
maximinus_thrax 8mo ago
Not defending what the DoD is doing right now, I firmly believe the US intervention is unconstitutional, BUT Iran has been 'at war' with the west for a very long time. It's time to redefine the concept of war to be compatible with the 21st century and also include hybrid warfare and war-by-proxy. Iran has been waging war using Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas-aligned factions, Iraqi militias and the consistent aid it gave Russia through the Shahed drone program which is targeting civilians in Ukraine. And I don't even want to go into details about the war Iran is fighting against its own citizens. I hate to quote Hegseth, but this is the FO phase of the FAFO cycle.

sleepyguy 8mo ago

Some speculation....I think the long term plan here is Iran launching Shadeeds from the back of a pickups into the gulf states every few days until it wears out both Gulf and American missile defense. 100's of Drones every week targeting Refineries, LNG Gas terminals, Data Centers, Hotels, etc, just like the Russians do to Kyiv every night. The only thing that can stop it will be a ground invasion. Russia and China have the USA right where they want them unless there is a regime collapse (highly unlikely) or a ground invasion (more likely). The Gulf States will be exhausted and the USA will be ground down defending them. There is also a supply route through the Caspian for China and Russia to bolster Iranian defense. Is the USA willing to invade Russia to stop it? This is much bigger than most Americans can comprehend at the moment, no one has ever won a war with just an air assault. Iran is twice as big as Iraq, and Israel and the USA have thrown everything they can at it short of a Nuclear bomb and it is still standing. Just saying...

JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
> the long term plan here is Iran launching Shadeeds from the back of a pickups into the gulf states every few days The long-term outcome is Iran’s domestic drone production gets decimated. If America, meanwhile, gets to field test its new anti-drone kit, from gun- and laser-based platforms to kamikaze drones. > only thing that can stop it will be a ground invasion Of course not. You blow up the factories and inventory. Ukraine was prohibited by Biden for ages from striking inside Russia, to where the drones and missiles were being made. > There is also a supply route through the Caspian for China and Russia to bolster Iranian defense. Is the USA willing to invade Russia to stop it? The pressure point on Putin is tasking the Coast Guard with seizing Russian shadow-fleet tankers again. > no one has ever won a war with just an air assault No one has ever effected regime change with just air power. America could absolutely achieve a war aim with air power alone once Hegseth gets around to defining it.
- 10000truths 8mo ago
  > The long-term outcome is Iran’s domestic drone production gets decimated. That is impossible without committing to boots on the ground. > Of course not. You blow up the factories and inventory. Where are the factories? Where are the stockpiles? If they don't show up on satellite imagery, how do you find them? Boots on the ground. If they're hidden underground or beneath a mountain, how do you blow them up? Boots on the ground. > No one has ever effected regime change with just air power. America could absolutely achieve a war aim with air power alone once Hegseth gets around to defining it. The reason he hasn't gotten around to defining a war aim is that there is no legitimate war aim. Netanyahu wanted to blow shit up and the Pentagon foolishly followed along instead of telling him "you're on your own".

rasz 8mo ago

The retaliation will be swift and severe, in form of /checks notes removing oil sanctions from russia https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5772316-oil-prices-russia-india-iran-bessent/ https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5772316-oil-pr... https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-could-lift-sanctions-more-russian-oil-says-bessent-2026-03-06/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-could-lift-sancti...