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This is terrifying, and those fighting against stopping or reducing global warming should at this point be regarded as hostis humani generis

jpadkins 7mo ago
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- lambdaone 7mo ago
  Amazing hyperbole, and a deflection from the real issues. You can fight against wrongdoing without actually advocating people being killed. Right now, climate change is an undeniable fact, its causes well-known, and the evidence for it now part of everyday life. If anything, its effects have been underestimated to date, and 'non-believers' in it are either fools or acting based on morally repugnant principles.
  - jpadkins 7mo ago
    hostis humani generis is latin for "enemies of mankind". It is not hyperbole, it is not deflection. The GP is advocating that everyone is compelled to attack or persecute anyone who is "fighting against stopping or reducing global warming".
    - queenkjuul 7mo ago
      They didn't say "kill," you did
      - tgsovlerkhgsel 7mo ago
        "hostis humani generis" implies "subject to violence and execution by anyone" (Wikipedia). The label has historically been a term/label for pirates, with the penalty for those caught generally being death. So yeah, they did suggest death for those people.
  - jpadkins 7mo ago
    > the evidence for it now part of everyday life I know of no evidence of global warming affecting my everyday life, nor anyone I know. I am open-minded, please show me what I should be looking at to see evidence of global warming in my everyday life. I live in Western PA, USA if that helps.
    - frm88 7mo ago
      Ask and you shall receive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_Pennsylvania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_Pennsylvania From rise of the Delaware river to flooding events.
- maest 7mo ago
  Instead of this lazy deflection, you should suggest what you believe would be an appropriate attitude towards these people.
  - jpadkins 7mo ago
    I think it's fine to engage in a healthy debate with skeptics, informed with facts and well supported suppositions as long as you have the bandwidth. I also acknowledge that one does not have to respond to skeptics, as they can waste time and energy. However, convincing the public of major changes of lifestyle and economy should be hard. At some point, you have to address the skeptics that bring up good, well reasoned arguments. Declaring them "enemies of mankind" is not persuasive, nor does it lead to peaceful resolution of important debates.

jpadkins 7mo ago

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lambdaone 7mo ago
Amazing hyperbole, and a deflection from the real issues. You can fight against wrongdoing without actually advocating people being killed. Right now, climate change is an undeniable fact, its causes well-known, and the evidence for it now part of everyday life. If anything, its effects have been underestimated to date, and 'non-believers' in it are either fools or acting based on morally repugnant principles.
- jpadkins 7mo ago
  hostis humani generis is latin for "enemies of mankind". It is not hyperbole, it is not deflection. The GP is advocating that everyone is compelled to attack or persecute anyone who is "fighting against stopping or reducing global warming".
  - queenkjuul 7mo ago
    They didn't say "kill," you did
    - tgsovlerkhgsel 7mo ago
      "hostis humani generis" implies "subject to violence and execution by anyone" (Wikipedia). The label has historically been a term/label for pirates, with the penalty for those caught generally being death. So yeah, they did suggest death for those people.
- jpadkins 7mo ago
  > the evidence for it now part of everyday life I know of no evidence of global warming affecting my everyday life, nor anyone I know. I am open-minded, please show me what I should be looking at to see evidence of global warming in my everyday life. I live in Western PA, USA if that helps.
  - frm88 7mo ago
    Ask and you shall receive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_Pennsylvania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_Pennsylvania From rise of the Delaware river to flooding events.
maest 7mo ago
Instead of this lazy deflection, you should suggest what you believe would be an appropriate attitude towards these people.
- jpadkins 7mo ago
  I think it's fine to engage in a healthy debate with skeptics, informed with facts and well supported suppositions as long as you have the bandwidth. I also acknowledge that one does not have to respond to skeptics, as they can waste time and energy. However, convincing the public of major changes of lifestyle and economy should be hard. At some point, you have to address the skeptics that bring up good, well reasoned arguments. Declaring them "enemies of mankind" is not persuasive, nor does it lead to peaceful resolution of important debates.