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This is open access. No need to post a researchgate link. Here's the original: https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-6079807/v1 https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-607
by afandian 7mo ago
This is open access. No need to post a researchgate link.
Here's the original: https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-6079807/v1 https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-6079807/v1
- luxuryballs 7mo agoI’m out of the loop on researchgate, when you say “No need” is it like an archive.is? Why is it less desirable or, if I’m reading your tone correctly, a “backup option”?
- nyeah 7mo agoResearchGate isn't open access.
- noboostforyou 7mo agoHow so? I don't have an account but I am able to read the entire paper directly from the OP's link, is there some sort of free limit or something that I have yet to hit? I get some banner ads served on their site but I'm not seeing how it isn't open access.
- tokai 7mo agoResearchgate has nothing to do with OA. Its a social media page for researchers. OA is open licensing that give the reader the rights to download, distribute, etc.
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- nyeah 7mo agoYou may be arguing that ResearchGate allows free access to its articles in general. If so, I believe there's a logical fallacy in your argument. But I've been warned that naming that logical fallacy is a ban-able offense on HN. (Surreal but true.)
- noboostforyou 7mo agoAh, gotcha - yes that explains my misunderstanding. I was equating "open access" to free access to the content via website. Thanks for clarifying.
- nyeah 7mo agoSome content on ResearchGate can be downloaded for free. Some can't.
- bee_rider 7mo agoResearchGate isn’t a journal, right? I think it is some sort of… pseudo-social-networking site for papers.
- nyeah 7mo agoRight, it's not a journal.
- serioussecurity 7mo agoThey're a user hostile attempt to extract money from people. They make their website hard to use.
- kergonath 7mo agoHow so? I am not paying anything and I don’t have any problem getting full texts when the authors uploaded them. In fact, I just logged in and don’t see even the possibility to pay for anything there. I assume they monetise their database, but everything there is supposed to be publicly accessible anyway. If I am not mistaken we can get documents without an account as well, unlike others.
- afandian 7mo agoI'm a bit of a scholarly infrastructure purist. The paper has a DOI, it leads to a landing page that has the full text, and the content is open licensed. Like if someone posted a link to an archive.is version of a Wikipedia page, you'd probably prefer to get the canonical link to that content. ResearchGate is a bit of commercial enclosure of infrastructure that is, and should be, open. Who knows, maybe it has other value. I'm not an academic so I don't know.
- miclill 7mo agoAs far as I understand this is a pre-print under CC-BY license, if this answers your question?
- pc86 7mo agoIf the original is available, posting anything else is by definition less desirable.
- kergonath 7mo agoMy position is that when it’s open access, we might as well link the primary source. ResearchGate is generally legal. It’s the responsibility of the authors to upload accepted manuscripts if the final document is not open access. AFAIK it does not do anything dodgy like archive.is does.
- dana321 7mo agoThe clue is in the name, research "gate"
- cubefox 7mo agoThe researchgate link has for me a deceptive ad at the bottom: it has a PDF logo and says "download now", suggesting that this will download the paper. It then links to a download page which in the fine print says it will actually download some kind of ebook collection which costs 30 bucks per month. That's a scam.
- dang 7mo agoOk, we've changed the URL from https://www.researchgate.net/publication/389855619_Global_Warming_has_Accelerated_Significantly https://www.researchgate.net/publication/389855619_Global_Wa... to what that doi.org link redirects to. Is it better now?
- afandian 7mo agoCool, thanks. I approve! In a pure world everyone would use DOIs to refer to published literature. This would give two benefits: first, always link to the current version. Second, be a persistent identifier for the content. But HN isn't a specialist scholarly content platform, so it's practical to link to the landing page.
- rcbdev 7mo agoAnd what about countries where URNs are the identifier of choice? In my perfect world, we'd ban DOIs entirely from academic conduct and use only URNs respectively.
- teyopi 7mo agoHi, unrelated: Your personal website has an expired certificate. Seems like it expired end of Feb.
- afandian 7mo agoThanks! Certbot did renew it but looks like something went wrong.