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It seems to be a rather weak article. I think everyone in the US military was expecting that a certain number of drones/rockets are going to make it through. B

by cyberax 8mo ago

It seems to be a rather weak article. I think everyone in the US military was expecting that a certain number of drones/rockets are going to make it through. But they're not going to present a serious threat to the overall military capabilities. Look at Ukraine, it's getting pummeled by literally thousands of drones. For years. Yet it's still fighting. No, a more serious question is what the US is going to do if the air bombing campaign fails to effect a regime change.

embedding-shape 8mo ago
> No, a more serious question is what the US is going to do if the air bombing campaign fails to effect a regime change How is this even a question though? The Islamic Republic's religion literally gets fueled by martyrdom, something the US and Israel is handing out freely these last few days, it only serves to make the republic stronger and more fearsome, and plays into their hand. Ok, you killed one leader, now there are ten more that are even more willing to die for the cause, and for each next one you kill, you spawn ten more. What really is the point here? Unless the US and Israel decides to actively invade with humans on the ground and some serious overtaking of organizations, entities and institutions, this war serves nothing else but create more future martyrs, which their entire religion centers around.
- moi2388 8mo ago
  The point is weakening the regime so the population can rise up. Iranians do not want this government, in case you didn’t know
  - embedding-shape 8mo ago
    Yeah, and making current leaders into martyrs is a great way to make the regime stronger, not weaker, is my point. "Iranians" is a big umbrella, just like all Americans don't want the same thing, the same is true in other countries. After a week of bombings the regime seems as strong as ever, so clearly there are Iranians who are still supporting the regime, otherwise it would have fallen already. But again, killing them with senseless assassinations only seems to make them stronger, because of their religion.
  - red-iron-pine 8mo ago
    they didn't want saddam, too. in group / out group. people tend to stop hating their government when outsiders start bombing schools.
righthand 8mo ago
Notice the videos of Iranians celebrating the death of their leader have stopped as they continuously get bombed after his death. Do you think that is building good will or no consequences for the future with anyone?

by cyberax 8mo ago

embedding-shape 8mo ago

> No, a more serious question is what the US is going to do if the air bombing campaign fails to effect a regime change How is this even a question though? The Islamic Republic's religion literally gets fueled by martyrdom, something the US and Israel is handing out freely these last few days, it only serves to make the republic stronger and more fearsome, and plays into their hand. Ok, you killed one leader, now there are ten more that are even more willing to die for the cause, and for each next one you kill, you spawn ten more. What really is the point here? Unless the US and Israel decides to actively invade with humans on the ground and some serious overtaking of organizations, entities and institutions, this war serves nothing else but create more future martyrs, which their entire religion centers around.

moi2388 8mo ago
The point is weakening the regime so the population can rise up. Iranians do not want this government, in case you didn’t know
- embedding-shape 8mo ago
  Yeah, and making current leaders into martyrs is a great way to make the regime stronger, not weaker, is my point. "Iranians" is a big umbrella, just like all Americans don't want the same thing, the same is true in other countries. After a week of bombings the regime seems as strong as ever, so clearly there are Iranians who are still supporting the regime, otherwise it would have fallen already. But again, killing them with senseless assassinations only seems to make them stronger, because of their religion.
- red-iron-pine 8mo ago
  they didn't want saddam, too. in group / out group. people tend to stop hating their government when outsiders start bombing schools.

righthand 8mo ago

Notice the videos of Iranians celebrating the death of their leader have stopped as they continuously get bombed after his death. Do you think that is building good will or no consequences for the future with anyone?