> Both of these links go to self-reported data about how addicted people feel themselves to be This is an incredible and outright lie. Actually try reading th

> Both of these links go to self-reported data about how addicted people feel themselves to be This is an incredible and outright lie. Actually try reading the page I linked, there are plenty of links to scientific studies, scientific reviews, and high-quality resources, as well as lots of careful notes about serious confounds in the usual studies. This includes in exactly the sections I linked. By all means still be cautious and not careless about using the stuff, that is a perfectly sane position. But I think it is very clear that e.g. patches and gum are highly unlikely to have anything even approaching the risk profile of classic tobacco products.