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> Why bother? ego, of course

JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
> ego, of course This is so silly. Do you really not have any hobbies where you spend inordinate time or money on things you could objectively accomplish quicker and cheaper, but having less fun, in other ways? Like, I ski. It’s a silly way to get up and down a hill in the 21st century. I’m not a watch guy. But mechanical watches are beautiful. There are idiots who buy them. But that doesn’t mean everyone who does is an idiot.
- kridsdale1 8mo ago
  We can say all the same things about cars, but nobody thinks it’s odd that there’s a status culture about cars worth more than $75,000.
  - JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
    > nobody thinks it’s odd that there’s a status culture about cars worth more than $75,000 Sure. To each their own. I drive a Subaru. I don’t think it’s weird that others like a nice car. (I also think there are douchebags who drive both.)
  - bombcar 8mo ago
    Because that’s only 2-5x the price of a new cheap car. A watch at $80,000 is what, 10,000x what a new cheap one is? But good for them! It’s really hard to be angry at them for buying said watch without it being some form of jealousy.
- boelboel 8mo ago
  Collecting watches isn't a hobby, it's pure consumerism. Sure many hobbies have (recently?) gotten way more people spending top dollars for no reason but with watch collecting there's nothing else. You're not tweaking the dials, you don't know how to make the watch, you just watch it and wear it while a technologically superior version is 500 times cheaper. There's also no natural shortage of them, they can make a trillion of these watches. At least with cars or audio equipment there's some marginal benefits once you get to crazy numbers, not the case with watches.
  - s1artibartfast 8mo ago
    What is wrong with watch consumerism? It isn't like it's ruining the planet and hurting anyone. Like you said, there is no shortage and nobody will die without them.
  - JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
    > You're not tweaking the dials, you don't know how to make the watch, you just watch it and wear it while a technologically superior version is 500 times cheaper This describes precisely zero watch enthusiasts I know. Each of them can open up the watch and understand what's happening. In one case, he'll disassemble the major components to clean them. (Analogous to how riders can take care of their horses and gear, or I can tune and wax my skis.) Your dismissal could be just as accurately be applied to the various programming languages many of us learn for fun. We don't know how to write its compiler. We can barely do anything useful in it. We just play with it while a technologically-superior version would take a fraction of the effort. > There's also no natural shortage of them, they can make a trillion of these watches Quartz? Obviously. Aegler/Rolex? Probably. Handmade movements? No. > At least with cars or audio equipment there's some marginal benefits once you get to crazy numbers, not the case with watches As an enthusiast of neither cars nor watches, I call total bullshit on this comparison. Anyone arguing they're getting utility out of their Ferrarri, Pagani, Omega or Audemars is full of themselves.
measurablefunc 8mo ago
Vanity. Ego is something else.

> ego, of course This is so silly. Do you really not have any hobbies where you spend inordinate time or money on things you could objectively accomplish quicker and cheaper, but having less fun, in other ways? Like, I ski. It’s a silly way to get up and down a hill in the 21st century. I’m not a watch guy. But mechanical watches are beautiful. There are idiots who buy them. But that doesn’t mean everyone who does is an idiot.

kridsdale1 8mo ago
We can say all the same things about cars, but nobody thinks it’s odd that there’s a status culture about cars worth more than $75,000.
- JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
  > nobody thinks it’s odd that there’s a status culture about cars worth more than $75,000 Sure. To each their own. I drive a Subaru. I don’t think it’s weird that others like a nice car. (I also think there are douchebags who drive both.)
- bombcar 8mo ago
  Because that’s only 2-5x the price of a new cheap car. A watch at $80,000 is what, 10,000x what a new cheap one is? But good for them! It’s really hard to be angry at them for buying said watch without it being some form of jealousy.
boelboel 8mo ago
Collecting watches isn't a hobby, it's pure consumerism. Sure many hobbies have (recently?) gotten way more people spending top dollars for no reason but with watch collecting there's nothing else. You're not tweaking the dials, you don't know how to make the watch, you just watch it and wear it while a technologically superior version is 500 times cheaper. There's also no natural shortage of them, they can make a trillion of these watches. At least with cars or audio equipment there's some marginal benefits once you get to crazy numbers, not the case with watches.
- s1artibartfast 8mo ago
  What is wrong with watch consumerism? It isn't like it's ruining the planet and hurting anyone. Like you said, there is no shortage and nobody will die without them.
- JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
  > You're not tweaking the dials, you don't know how to make the watch, you just watch it and wear it while a technologically superior version is 500 times cheaper This describes precisely zero watch enthusiasts I know. Each of them can open up the watch and understand what's happening. In one case, he'll disassemble the major components to clean them. (Analogous to how riders can take care of their horses and gear, or I can tune and wax my skis.) Your dismissal could be just as accurately be applied to the various programming languages many of us learn for fun. We don't know how to write its compiler. We can barely do anything useful in it. We just play with it while a technologically-superior version would take a fraction of the effort. > There's also no natural shortage of them, they can make a trillion of these watches Quartz? Obviously. Aegler/Rolex? Probably. Handmade movements? No. > At least with cars or audio equipment there's some marginal benefits once you get to crazy numbers, not the case with watches As an enthusiast of neither cars nor watches, I call total bullshit on this comparison. Anyone arguing they're getting utility out of their Ferrarri, Pagani, Omega or Audemars is full of themselves.

measurablefunc 8mo ago

Vanity. Ego is something else.