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I no longer want to support OpenAI at all. Regardless of benchmarks or real world performance.

by prydt 7mo ago

Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
I agree with ya. You aren't alone in this. For what its worth, Chatgpt subscriptions have been cancelled or that number has risen ~300% in the last month. Also, Anthropic/Gemini/even Kimi models are pretty good for what its worth. I used to use chatgpt and I still sometimes accidentally open it but I use Gemini/Claude nowadays and I personally find them to be better anyways too.
- throwaway911282 7mo ago
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  - Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
    Govt. contracts and terms allowing autonomous drone machines which can kill without any human in the loop have a very large difference I know the difference between this is none but to me, its that Anthropic stood for what it thought was right. It had drew a line even if it may have costed some money and literally have them announced as supply chain and see all the fallout from that in that particular relevant thread. As a person, although I am not fan of these companies in general and yes I love oss-models. But I still so so much appreciate atleast's anthropic's line of morality which many people might seem insignificant but to me it isn't. So for the workflows that I used OpenAI for, I find Anthropic/gemini to be good use. I love OSS-models too btw and this is why I recommended Kimi too.
    - Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
      > I know the difference between this is none but to me Edit: just a very minor nitpick of my own writing but I meant that "I know the difference between this could look very little to some, maybe none, but to me..." rather than "I know the difference between this is none but to me". I was clearly writing this way too late at night haha. My point sort of was/is that Anthropic drew a line at something and is taking massive losses of supply chain/risks and what not and this is the thing that I would support a company out of rather than say OpenAI.
zeeebeee 7mo ago
that aside, chatgpt itself has gone downhill so much and i know i'm not the only one feeling this way i just HATE talking to it like a chatbot idk what they did but i feel like every response has been the same "structure" since gpt 5 came out feels like a true robot
tototrains 7mo ago
Their trajectory was clear the moment they signed a deal with Microsoft if not sooner. Absolute snakes - if it's more profitable to manipulate you with outputs or steal your work, they will. Every cent and byte of data they're given will be used to support authoritarianism.
huey77 7mo ago
I feel much the same. I know no AI lab is truly 'ethical' or free from some hand in modern warfare, but last week was enough.
mrcwinn 7mo ago
Don't worry, the non-profit should be stepping in at any moment to help fix things up.
EasyMark 7mo ago
Yeah I dropped them. Unfollowed the people working for them on SM
amai 7mo ago
https://quitgpt.org/ https://quitgpt.org/
maldev 7mo ago
Big fan of OpenAI and recently swapped over due to their recent policies. Will never use Anthropic again. I think GPT-5 is better and I like the companies values.
- aNapierkowski 7mo ago
  which values of OpenAI do you prefer and which values of Anthropic do you dislike? out of curiousity
  - downrightmike 7mo ago
    Don't feed the trolls
    - aNapierkowski 7mo ago
      mb i thought i missed something its the murder part they like
      - maldev 7mo ago
        Sorry you think stopping a terrorist trying to mass murder people with AI is a bad thing. One could very easily argue that the murder part about Anthropic is what you like, but you just like terrorists being able to kill civilians. Imagine the following. Islamic terrorists are planning a terror attack on a Christmas festival in Berlin. Their texts were seen, but were encoded. AI can read their texts and help decode and flag those messages to stop the terrorist attack and eliminate them. In your world, you think it's morally right to let the terrorist mass murder people in Berlin, and not to do what we can to stop it.
        xvector 7mo ago
        In your example, the model flags innocent people to be killed. Anthropic does not have a problem with using AI in totally autonomous (no human in the loop) kill chains They have a problem with doing it with today's models, because today's models hallucinate and get things wrong frequently. All of them.
Palmik 7mo ago
What are your thoughts on this? https://www.anthropic.com/news/where-stand-department-war https://www.anthropic.com/news/where-stand-department-war I am honestly unclear on the reasoning of people who flock from OpenAI to Anthropic, and doubly so of those who are not US citizens.
- distrill 7mo ago
  this isn't really my opinion, but i think it's a perceived matter of _some_ principle vs just none, a lesser of 2 evils framing. if anthropic is on board with 99% of a government that i oppose, that could be seen as marginally better than openai being on board with 100% of a government that i oppose. it does get a little weird thinking too hard about how the deal openai accepted was basically the same as the one anthropic was proposing. but this is my read of most of the sentiment in this direction.
  - xvector 7mo ago
    Deals are totally different, OAI allows "all lawful use" (so basically anything)

I no longer want to support OpenAI at all. Regardless of benchmarks or real world performance.

by prydt 7mo ago

I no longer want to support OpenAI at all. Regardless of benchmarks or real world performance.

I agree with ya. You aren't alone in this. For what its worth, Chatgpt subscriptions have been cancelled or that number has risen ~300% in the last month. Also, Anthropic/Gemini/even Kimi models are pretty good for what its worth. I used to use chatgpt and I still sometimes accidentally open it but I use Gemini/Claude nowadays and I personally find them to be better anyways too.

throwaway911282 7mo ago
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- Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
  Govt. contracts and terms allowing autonomous drone machines which can kill without any human in the loop have a very large difference I know the difference between this is none but to me, its that Anthropic stood for what it thought was right. It had drew a line even if it may have costed some money and literally have them announced as supply chain and see all the fallout from that in that particular relevant thread. As a person, although I am not fan of these companies in general and yes I love oss-models. But I still so so much appreciate atleast's anthropic's line of morality which many people might seem insignificant but to me it isn't. So for the workflows that I used OpenAI for, I find Anthropic/gemini to be good use. I love OSS-models too btw and this is why I recommended Kimi too.
  - Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
    > I know the difference between this is none but to me Edit: just a very minor nitpick of my own writing but I meant that "I know the difference between this could look very little to some, maybe none, but to me..." rather than "I know the difference between this is none but to me". I was clearly writing this way too late at night haha. My point sort of was/is that Anthropic drew a line at something and is taking massive losses of supply chain/risks and what not and this is the thing that I would support a company out of rather than say OpenAI.

zeeebeee 7mo ago

that aside, chatgpt itself has gone downhill so much and i know i'm not the only one feeling this way i just HATE talking to it like a chatbot idk what they did but i feel like every response has been the same "structure" since gpt 5 came out feels like a true robot

tototrains 7mo ago

Their trajectory was clear the moment they signed a deal with Microsoft if not sooner. Absolute snakes - if it's more profitable to manipulate you with outputs or steal your work, they will. Every cent and byte of data they're given will be used to support authoritarianism.

huey77 7mo ago

I feel much the same. I know no AI lab is truly 'ethical' or free from some hand in modern warfare, but last week was enough.

mrcwinn 7mo ago

Don't worry, the non-profit should be stepping in at any moment to help fix things up.

EasyMark 7mo ago

Yeah I dropped them. Unfollowed the people working for them on SM

amai 7mo ago

https://quitgpt.org/ https://quitgpt.org/

maldev 7mo ago

Big fan of OpenAI and recently swapped over due to their recent policies. Will never use Anthropic again. I think GPT-5 is better and I like the companies values.

aNapierkowski 7mo ago
which values of OpenAI do you prefer and which values of Anthropic do you dislike? out of curiousity
- downrightmike 7mo ago
  Don't feed the trolls
  - aNapierkowski 7mo ago
    mb i thought i missed something its the murder part they like
    - maldev 7mo ago
      Sorry you think stopping a terrorist trying to mass murder people with AI is a bad thing. One could very easily argue that the murder part about Anthropic is what you like, but you just like terrorists being able to kill civilians. Imagine the following. Islamic terrorists are planning a terror attack on a Christmas festival in Berlin. Their texts were seen, but were encoded. AI can read their texts and help decode and flag those messages to stop the terrorist attack and eliminate them. In your world, you think it's morally right to let the terrorist mass murder people in Berlin, and not to do what we can to stop it.
      - xvector 7mo ago
        In your example, the model flags innocent people to be killed. Anthropic does not have a problem with using AI in totally autonomous (no human in the loop) kill chains They have a problem with doing it with today's models, because today's models hallucinate and get things wrong frequently. All of them.

Palmik 7mo ago

What are your thoughts on this? https://www.anthropic.com/news/where-stand-department-war https://www.anthropic.com/news/where-stand-department-war I am honestly unclear on the reasoning of people who flock from OpenAI to Anthropic, and doubly so of those who are not US citizens.

distrill 7mo ago
this isn't really my opinion, but i think it's a perceived matter of _some_ principle vs just none, a lesser of 2 evils framing. if anthropic is on board with 99% of a government that i oppose, that could be seen as marginally better than openai being on board with 100% of a government that i oppose. it does get a little weird thinking too hard about how the deal openai accepted was basically the same as the one anthropic was proposing. but this is my read of most of the sentiment in this direction.
- xvector 7mo ago
  Deals are totally different, OAI allows "all lawful use" (so basically anything)