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Seems a good time to link to Gwern's well-researched notes on why nicotine, when consumed in purer forms (e.g. patches, gum), may be pretty useful and not reall
by D-Machine 7mo ago
Seems a good time to link to Gwern's well-researched notes on why nicotine, when consumed in purer forms (e.g. patches, gum), may be pretty useful and not really as harmful nor as addictive as one might think.
https://gwern.net/nicotine https://gwern.net/nicotine
- Teever 7mo agoIts been a while since I read this post and I don’t have time to reread it but from my experience while it is a useful drug it definitely has addiction and health issues even in more pure forms.
- D-Machine 7mo agoCorrect. My TL:DR summary would be: - when quantifying for gum and patches, it is really hard to conclude that these pure forms of nicotine are any different from caffeine in harms / addictiveness - cigarettes, or even pure tobacco smoked is definitely addictive and bad due to other compounds in play - chewing tobacco products are likely a lot less worse than smoking, but still probably worse than pure nicotine gum or patches - data is very unclear on vaping IMO experience suggests vaping can clearly be highly addictive (see: young adults and teens), and I know personally there is even some minimal research on vaping e.g. THC that shows that vaping might be worse than just smoking cannabis, so vaping definitely warrants caution in general [though vaping THC requires much higher temps and different solvents, and involves different terpenes and other compounds].
- padjo 7mo agoHabitually taking vasoconstrictors is almost certainly a bad idea.