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No, it's simply untrue. Players only object against AI art assets. And only when they're painfully obvious. No one cares about how the code is written. This re

No, it's simply untrue. Players only object against AI art assets. And only when they're painfully obvious. No one cares about how the code is written. This reminded me of a conversation about AI I had with an artist last year. She was furious and cursing and saying how awful it is for stealing from artists, but then admitted she uses it for writing descriptions and marketing posts to sell her art.

raincole 7mo ago
Sinix even explicitly says that AI is an IP theft machine but it's okay to use AI to generate 360 rotation video to market your 2D works[0]. To summarize this era we live in: my AI usage is justified but all the other people are generating slop. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8fFM6kjZUk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8fFM6kjZUk [1]: Disclaimer: I deeply respect Sinix as an art educator. If it weren't him I wouldn't have learnt digital painting. But it's still quite a weird take of him.
Lord-Jobo 7mo ago
Which I would point out isn’t necessarily hypocrisy on their part. I can rage against guns and gun manufacturers for their negative effects on our nation and hate when they are used for monstrous evil, but also believe that police should have firearms and that the second amendment is important. It’s a tool. You can hate the way it’s made and marketed, and hate many of its popular use cases, and still think there are acceptable ways to use and market it without requiring a total abolition.
- Aushin 7mo ago
  I mean, the police probably shouldn't have firearms and the second amendment is one of the worst legal creations in human history.
WarmWash 7mo ago
Everyone is in it for themselves. The world makes waay more sense when you really internalize that. It doesn't necessarily mean people are selfish, large groups often have aligned interests, but when an individuals interest alignment changes, then their group membership almost always changes too. I'd bet she has a bunch of pirated content and anti-copyright remarks from the golden age of piracy as well.
- tovej 7mo ago
  That's not true. Most people are interested in fostering a community, even when it means sacrifice. There _have_ however been studies that show that this attitude is prevalent in (neoclassical) economics students and others who are exposed to (neoclassical) economic thinking: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214804318301952 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S22148... It's very effective propaganda. And we have a good example of it here. (Mot saying you're spreading it maliciously, but you are spreading it).
  - Throaway1985123 7mo ago
    People are in it for themselves...when it comes to participating in our capitalist economic system. The 2nd part is often left unsaid.
    - WarmWash 7mo ago
      Humans overwhelming group themselves with groups that provide themselves with the best value prop. When the individuals circumstances change, which causes the value prop of the group to change, people overwhelming move to a new group. It's not a capitalist or socialist thing.
      - ozmodiar 7mo ago
        I'm having trouble thinking of groups of people who are even able to change members outside of modern capitalism. Through most of human history we've been stuck with our group or tribe. Heck, I see people stick with groups that are toxic to them just out of the sense of connection it gives.
      - tovej 7mo ago
        I'm in the groups I am because I like the people and what they're doing. I don't generally hang out with people because I expect it to benefit me.
- shadowgovt 7mo ago

raincole 7mo ago

Sinix even explicitly says that AI is an IP theft machine but it's okay to use AI to generate 360 rotation video to market your 2D works[0]. To summarize this era we live in: my AI usage is justified but all the other people are generating slop. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8fFM6kjZUk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8fFM6kjZUk [1]: Disclaimer: I deeply respect Sinix as an art educator. If it weren't him I wouldn't have learnt digital painting. But it's still quite a weird take of him.

Lord-Jobo 7mo ago

Which I would point out isn’t necessarily hypocrisy on their part. I can rage against guns and gun manufacturers for their negative effects on our nation and hate when they are used for monstrous evil, but also believe that police should have firearms and that the second amendment is important. It’s a tool. You can hate the way it’s made and marketed, and hate many of its popular use cases, and still think there are acceptable ways to use and market it without requiring a total abolition.

Aushin 7mo ago
I mean, the police probably shouldn't have firearms and the second amendment is one of the worst legal creations in human history.

WarmWash 7mo ago

Everyone is in it for themselves. The world makes waay more sense when you really internalize that. It doesn't necessarily mean people are selfish, large groups often have aligned interests, but when an individuals interest alignment changes, then their group membership almost always changes too. I'd bet she has a bunch of pirated content and anti-copyright remarks from the golden age of piracy as well.

tovej 7mo ago
That's not true. Most people are interested in fostering a community, even when it means sacrifice. There _have_ however been studies that show that this attitude is prevalent in (neoclassical) economics students and others who are exposed to (neoclassical) economic thinking: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214804318301952 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S22148... It's very effective propaganda. And we have a good example of it here. (Mot saying you're spreading it maliciously, but you are spreading it).
- Throaway1985123 7mo ago
  People are in it for themselves...when it comes to participating in our capitalist economic system. The 2nd part is often left unsaid.
  - WarmWash 7mo ago
    Humans overwhelming group themselves with groups that provide themselves with the best value prop. When the individuals circumstances change, which causes the value prop of the group to change, people overwhelming move to a new group. It's not a capitalist or socialist thing.
    - ozmodiar 7mo ago
      I'm having trouble thinking of groups of people who are even able to change members outside of modern capitalism. Through most of human history we've been stuck with our group or tribe. Heck, I see people stick with groups that are toxic to them just out of the sense of connection it gives.
    - tovej 7mo ago
      I'm in the groups I am because I like the people and what they're doing. I don't generally hang out with people because I expect it to benefit me.
shadowgovt 7mo ago