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Could be wrong but I don't think Flock makes speed trap or red light cameras. These are license plate readers that conduct constant surveillance of everyone at
by Ajedi32 8mo ago
Could be wrong but I don't think Flock makes speed trap or red light cameras. These are license plate readers that conduct constant surveillance of everyone at all times, whether or not you've broken any traffic laws.
- tonymet 8mo agoplate reading allows police to identify known and unknown suspects. For known suspects (e.g. police have PC, suspect fled), plate reader can help find the suspect without high speed pursuit. For unknown suspect (e.g. citizen report of street racing), plate readers can develop a suspect pool and narrow down candidate suspects for further investigation.
- Ajedi32 8mo agoSure, I won't dispute that warrantless mass surveillance of everyone at all times makes it easier to track down criminals. I just want to be clear that that's what we're talking about. These don't only target people who are "Running reds" or driving at "extreme speed".
- tonymet 8mo agoI chose reckless driving because it's relatable . The cameras help with all crimes. Many stores are putting them up to discourage shoplifting / armed robbery, for example. Is your objection to convicting criminals or false convictions?
- Ajedi32 8mo agoI wasn't necessarily making an objection, just an observation. But I suspect that warrantless government surveillance of the movements of millions of private citizens who have not been accused of a crime might be considered inherently objectionable by many regardless of what other effects it might have.
- tonymet 8mo agoConsumers are overwhelmingly giving consent to surveillance via their apps. So when the government would like to it's a bad thing? why not improve policy so the government has guidelines for doing so, so they don't to conceal their agenda behind private enterprise?