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>I'm not aware of any news of them Yet. Until they say "We delete these messages after X time and they are gone gone, and we're not reading them" Assume they a

• nindalf 8mo ago
  > We delete these messages after X time They never had the plaintext of the messages in the first place, so they don't need to delete them. That's what end-to-end encrypted means.
  • hogwasher 8mo ago
    Whether Facebook/Meta can read the plain text of the messages or not depends on whether that encryption is "zero knowledge" or not, aka: does Facebook generate and retain the private encryption key, or does it stay on the users' devices only, never visible to Facebook or stored on Facebook servers? In the former case, Facebook can decrypt the messages at will, and the e2ee only protects against hackers, not Facebook itself, nor against law enforcement, since if Facebook has the decryption key they can be legally compelled to hand it over (and probably would voluntarily, going by their history).
    • Rubberducky1324 8mo ago
      They use the Signal protocol. The keys are not generated by Facebook, and are never on their servers. They are generated on the devices themselves.
  • pixl97 8mo ago
    They don't need the plaintext if they have your key. Since they wrote the application you have zero clue if they do or not.