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Well, the problem aren't just the NSF funding cuts. Everyone else is already dumping truckloads of cash. There's also the public health situation (who wants mea
by lynndotpy 8mo ago
Well, the problem aren't just the NSF funding cuts. Everyone else is already dumping truckloads of cash. There's also the public health situation (who wants measles or polio?), the risk of retaliatory attacks from the countries we're at war with, etc. You could write paragraphs about why the US is less attractive to researchers.
When I was a deep learning PhD in the first Trump administration, US universities were already very deeply affected by the Muslim ban, and so a lot of talent ended up in other countries.
Sibling commentators are rightfully pointing out that foreigners, especially those who would not be recognized as white, face an onerous and risky customs process with long-term and increasing risks of deportation. When you see a headline like the NIST labs abruptly restricting foreign scientists, _everything_ else feels uncertain. Even if someone doesn't believe they're personally at risk for deportation, they're still seeing everything else.
And then it all boils down to a reputational thing. The era where we were the top choice for research is in the past. If you start a PhD in the US on your resume during this era, you might be anticipating how you'll answe the question of why you weren't good enough to get accepted somewhere better.
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- sciencejerk 8mo agoWhere do researchers go instead of USA then? Genuinely curious
- lynndotpy 8mo agoCanada has always been appealing for people who were set on the United States but taken aback by the political climate. This goes back decades (famously in the AI space, Reagan is why Canada got Hinton instead of the US) but is exacerbated as of late. China also has pretty amazing investment in tech companies and research institutions, but Mandarin doesn't yet enjoy the same widespread adoption of English Big caveat that I have the perspective of just one US-based former academic.