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MacOS is crazy efficient and can overcommit quite a lot. I used an M1 Pro for a couple years to work. 8GB of ram but routinely using 12GB including swap. Now,

by akdev1l 7mo ago

MacOS is crazy efficient and can overcommit quite a lot. I used an M1 Pro for a couple years to work. 8GB of ram but routinely using 12GB including swap. Now, I couldn’t keep slack and outlook open so there were limitations but I was able to work. People are underestimating the usefulness of 8GB of RAM. I guess it is also worth saying that I do my work by connecting to a remote server where I do the actual development and everything else. The Mac itself being a web browser and ssh machine

MrDrMcCoy 7mo ago
Not being able to keep Slack and Outlook open at the same time seems like a pretty significant productivity hindrance to me. 8GB RAM is truly pathetic in 2022.
- Schiendelman 7mo ago
  Do you actually have a problem with Slack and Outlook open at the same time on an Apple Silicon Mac with 8GB of memory? Or are you assuming?
  - MrDrMcCoy 7mo ago
    I was replying to someone that made that claim from apparent experience.
- Kirby64 7mo ago
  Children don't have Slack and Outlook open. Gmail in a web browser and Discord, maybe. My old M1 Air works just fine for productivity workloads, and has for years.
  - vunderba 7mo ago
    Is Slack that much worse of a memory hog than Discord? Aren’t they both built on electron?
    - Kirby64 7mo ago
      Not sure about slack vs discord, but browser Gmail is almost certainly less memory hungry than Outlook. And that’s probably enough of a difference by itself.
    - alwillis 7mo ago
      You can make a pretty good electron app or one that kinda sucks. Slack is in the latter category.
      - vunderba 7mo ago
        VS Code (or rather VSCodium in my case) is also electron based but it's been relatively snappy in my experience - though I don't use a lot of third party plugins.
        alwillis 7mo ago
        Say what you will about Microsoft but the performance of VS Code is really good.
- deepthaw 7mo ago
  I’m freaking out the equivalent of mutt and irc require more than 8GB of RAM to run simultaneously. What are modern operating systems and applications doing?
  - jshen 7mo ago
    Gifs. I'm only half joking.
  - astrange 7mo ago
    You can post images in Slack and use text formatting. Those are things that use memory.
    - abujazar 7mo ago
      Sloppy memory management is what uses memory. But those apps are in a class of their own, along with Electron apps.
      - astrange 7mo ago
        Slack is an Electron app.
- Izikiel43 7mo ago
  > Not being able to keep Slack and Outlook open at the same time seems like a pretty significant productivity hindrance to me. 8GB RAM is truly pathetic in 2022. I read this as how bad software quality has gone down, that a mail program and a chat program don't fit in 8GB of RAM.
- akdev1l 7mo ago
  I used outlook on the browser when needed and slack was open most of the time I also had around 200 tabs open on the regular Now I wouldn’t tell you it was a good experience because it wasn’t. But it was usable even pushing the hardware to the max.
- briandear 7mo ago
  Not having to use outlook is a feature not a bug.

by akdev1l 7mo ago

MrDrMcCoy 7mo ago

Not being able to keep Slack and Outlook open at the same time seems like a pretty significant productivity hindrance to me. 8GB RAM is truly pathetic in 2022.

Schiendelman 7mo ago
Do you actually have a problem with Slack and Outlook open at the same time on an Apple Silicon Mac with 8GB of memory? Or are you assuming?
- MrDrMcCoy 7mo ago
  I was replying to someone that made that claim from apparent experience.
Kirby64 7mo ago
Children don't have Slack and Outlook open. Gmail in a web browser and Discord, maybe. My old M1 Air works just fine for productivity workloads, and has for years.
- vunderba 7mo ago
  Is Slack that much worse of a memory hog than Discord? Aren’t they both built on electron?
  - Kirby64 7mo ago
    Not sure about slack vs discord, but browser Gmail is almost certainly less memory hungry than Outlook. And that’s probably enough of a difference by itself.
  - alwillis 7mo ago
    You can make a pretty good electron app or one that kinda sucks. Slack is in the latter category.
    - vunderba 7mo ago
      VS Code (or rather VSCodium in my case) is also electron based but it's been relatively snappy in my experience - though I don't use a lot of third party plugins.
      - alwillis 7mo ago
        Say what you will about Microsoft but the performance of VS Code is really good.
deepthaw 7mo ago
I’m freaking out the equivalent of mutt and irc require more than 8GB of RAM to run simultaneously. What are modern operating systems and applications doing?
- jshen 7mo ago
  Gifs. I'm only half joking.
- astrange 7mo ago
  You can post images in Slack and use text formatting. Those are things that use memory.
  - abujazar 7mo ago
    Sloppy memory management is what uses memory. But those apps are in a class of their own, along with Electron apps.
    - astrange 7mo ago
      Slack is an Electron app.
Izikiel43 7mo ago
> Not being able to keep Slack and Outlook open at the same time seems like a pretty significant productivity hindrance to me. 8GB RAM is truly pathetic in 2022. I read this as how bad software quality has gone down, that a mail program and a chat program don't fit in 8GB of RAM.
akdev1l 7mo ago
I used outlook on the browser when needed and slack was open most of the time I also had around 200 tabs open on the regular Now I wouldn’t tell you it was a good experience because it wasn’t. But it was usable even pushing the hardware to the max.
briandear 7mo ago
Not having to use outlook is a feature not a bug.