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Indeed; or, Europe badly needs a competitive model to hedge against US political nonsense.
by mft_ 7mo ago
Indeed; or, Europe badly needs a competitive model to hedge against US political nonsense.
- ivan_gammel 7mo agoOffering „You are welcome“ relocation package to Anthropic might be a good idea.
- Imustaskforhelp 7mo agoGiven how American govt. has treated Anthropic, I think you might be right. EU truly has a remarkable opportunity to make Anthropic/Claude European.
- petcat 7mo agoThis US administration (or any admin) would almost certainly impose export controls on US AI technology before it would allow one of the frontier model providers to be acquired/relocate outside the US. It did the same thing when ASML wanted to acquire Cymer (California company that provides the EUV light source technology). The acquisition was only allowed under strict technology sharing/export agreements with the Dutch government. Europe really just needs to rally behind Mistral. That's where they should dump their cash.
- ivan_gammel 7mo agoHaving one „champion“ is flawed European approach. We need local competition and headhunting to make it fly.
- azinman2 7mo agoHard to compete in an environment that’s anti-996 and the pay is so much less.
- ivan_gammel 7mo agoYes. 996 is for lazy people.
- dvdkon 7mo agoDo you consider high working hours to be a benefit akin to higher pay? I think fewer hours and less money is a fair deal for employees.
- azinman2 7mo agoFair deal for the employees but hard to compete against smart, well resourced people who are working 996. Everything with AI is moving so fast that moving slower makes you irrelevant.
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- fc417fc802 7mo agoCan they actually prevent it though? In typical cases there would be IP licenses involved. But in this case it's a valuation based (AFAICT) on a team of people plus their infra. What happens if they all just happened to get hired by "AnthropicEU GmbH" a new entity which has been gifted hundreds of millions in computing resources?
- kelvinjps10 7mo agoBut can they restrict the researchers from leaving? What if they are just offered regular jobs by a new European company? What the US has done is dictatorial, but this would be even worse if they try to do it.
- lejalv 7mo agoGiven what Amodei thinks of spying non-US citizens, that's a hard pass from me. If you are that loyal (servile) to your country leaders, don't go elsewhere when you "discover" they are thugs. Put up with it or revolt (as Iranians are being asked to do).
- impossiblefork 7mo agoI'm not sure goals are totally aligned though. The current models are created by enormous expense. We know that many stages are done incorrectly. I am confident that they can be replicated without any unique US knowledge. At the moment my impression is instead that the issue is computational resources. It's important to stay near the frontier though, and to build up ones capacity to train large models. Consequently I don't think we need Anthropic. It wouldn't be terrible if they came. Especially if they picked a nice location. Barcelona would be very nice, for example.
- ekianjo 7mo agoThere is no capital in the EU
- rcbdev 7mo agoIt's all tied up in real estate and horribly inefficient savings accounts.
- cmrdporcupine 7mo agoAnthropic has gone out of their way to make a point about how much they love and admire the US state and its defense sector. Only drawing the line at a very far point and even when they drew the line it was with a big thing about how they believe in the American defense sector blah blah blah. In any case, there's no way Anthropic's investors in Silicon Valley would countenance such a move. Also, I'm biased the logical place is Canada, not Europe. Much of the fundamental/foundational research on LLMs, and a large part of the talent, came from universities in Canada anyways.
- vasco 7mo agoLook up how many of the main people are Polish.
- tiahura 7mo agoCompetitive models are illegal in the EU.
- mijoharas 7mo agoIt'd be great if they went to Mistral!