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Hey, it took courage to remove that headphone jack. https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/07/courage/ https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/07/courage/
by et-al 7mo ago
Hey, it took courage to remove that headphone jack.
https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/07/courage/ https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/07/courage/
- raw_anon_1111 7mo agoThis is 2026. iPhones use standard USB C headphones, you can charge your phone at the same time while using your wired headphones using MagSafe and you can even by low end $59 Beats Flex headphones that have all of the Apple magic. I’m going to need HN geeks to get over analog headphones from the 60s
- RhysU 7mo agoLow-end wired earbuds come in packages with dozens of units. I buy cheap earbuds because my kids love breaking them. Not everyone optimizes for the same thing. Analog remains the bees knees in certain settings.
- raw_anon_1111 7mo agoJust a quick search on Amazon shows a two pack of USB C headphones for $10
- RhysU 7mo agoOr 100 analog ones for $36.
- raw_anon_1111 7mo agoSo you are worried about saving money and consider $5 for a pair of headphones and you bought an iPhone????
- RhysU 7mo agoNo. Going back to what I initially responded to: > I’m going to need HN geeks to get over analog headphones from the 60s I am saying that not all adoration of the analog headphone jack is baseless. And we shouldn't universally move on.
- raw_anon_1111 7mo agoSo your adoration of analog headphone jacks is you can buy a pair of crappy ones for less than a 50 cents each? If you are that concerned about price, I’m sure you can get a $20 Tracphone from somewhere with an analog jack.
- OSaMaBiNLoGiN 7mo agoAs soon as those headphones sound better than the analog alternatives, sure. But they don't. And won't.
- raw_anon_1111 7mo agoSo USB headphones sound worse than analog ones? Does vinyl sound better to you to than CDs?
- Kirby64 7mo agoWhy do they need to sound better? Also, in a lot of instances, they do sound better because they can offer powered functionality such as ANC. Can’t get that with a truly analog headphone. I’d never use analog headphones on a plane, for instance.
- raw_anon_1111 7mo agoI can’t think of an instance where analog headphones would sound better than USB C headphones using the same hardware.
- lynndotpy 7mo agoI am a huge 3.5mm jack defender and I am still upset at how Apple created a post-USB C world. But this is a common misconception. USB C headphones and 3.5mm headphones (and Bluetooth, USB A, etc) are all equally as "analog" as one another (with the exception of someone with all-analog equipment, of course). You need a DAC somewhere between the chip you're getting the digital signal from and the speakers that are playing an analog signal. And so the quality of that depends on (among other things) the quality of your DAC. With USB or Bluetooth headphones, the DAC is somewhere in the headphone. With the 3.5mm jack, the DAC is behind jack. If you have a device with a crummy built-in DAC giving you a noisy signal, you'll be better off using a USB DAC. I haven't used Apple's USB C earbuds, but Apple does make a $10 USB C to 3.5mm DAC that performs very very well for its price point.
- raw_anon_1111 7mo ago
- et-al 7mo agoIn my experience, USB-C ports are more fragile than 3.5mm audio jacks for repeated plugging in / unplugging cycles.
- SchemaLoad 7mo agoI've never had a USB-C port fail with many of them being plugged / unplugged multiple times a day for years. At most they fill with dust you have to fish out. Aux ports would often get in a state where you had to very carefully position the jack for it to work.