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> The Neo can run iPad apps In theory yes, but in reality barely any developer (at least the mainstream ones) make their app available on MacOS, and nobody enj

by g947o 8mo ago

> The Neo can run iPad apps In theory yes, but in reality barely any developer (at least the mainstream ones) make their app available on MacOS, and nobody enjoys interacting with a touch-screen optimized app with mouse/trackpad

Cthulhu_ 8mo ago
That's an odd choice (for said developers), given in most cases it's a matter of checking a box. The second half of your comment is a generalization though.
- NotPractical 8mo ago
  It makes it easier to pirate your app if you enable that checkbox. macOS attempts to disable iOS apps when SIP is disabled to prevent this but it's not difficult to bypass [1]. I don't necessarily agree with it but this probably does factor into their decision process. [1] https://github.com/paradiseduo/appdecrypt https://github.com/paradiseduo/appdecrypt
  - raw_anon_1111 8mo ago
    That couldn’t be the reason. 90% of App Store revenue comes from in app purchases of consumables from games. This came out in the Epic trial. The rest of the most use apps are front end for services where the app is free. There are very very few one time app purchases on iOS where pirating would make sense
    - NotPractical 8mo ago
      Piracy is not the only risk when someone grabs your app binary, but also cracked versions with ads removed, or subscription checks disabled.
      - raw_anon_1111 8mo ago
        They can already grab your binary by using third party tools or by using the Apple Configurator from what I’m seeing. TIL: iPhone backups on computers stopped including full ipa’s back in 2017…
        NotPractical 8mo ago
        They're encrypted using FairPlay, so you need either a jailbroken iPhone or a "jailbroken" (SIP bypass while SIP is enabled) Mac to decrypt them. The former will stop being possible soon enough, the latter will likely remain possible for quite some time.
- in_cahoots 8mo ago
  We got my son a Mac Mini when he was 6. I was surprised at how many kid games just didn't work with the Mac, or how many did work but didn't support an external microphone and camera. I guess since most young kids have iPads or Chromebooks there's no market.

by g947o 8mo ago

Cthulhu_ 8mo ago

That's an odd choice (for said developers), given in most cases it's a matter of checking a box. The second half of your comment is a generalization though.

NotPractical 8mo ago
It makes it easier to pirate your app if you enable that checkbox. macOS attempts to disable iOS apps when SIP is disabled to prevent this but it's not difficult to bypass [1]. I don't necessarily agree with it but this probably does factor into their decision process. [1] https://github.com/paradiseduo/appdecrypt https://github.com/paradiseduo/appdecrypt
- raw_anon_1111 8mo ago
  That couldn’t be the reason. 90% of App Store revenue comes from in app purchases of consumables from games. This came out in the Epic trial. The rest of the most use apps are front end for services where the app is free. There are very very few one time app purchases on iOS where pirating would make sense
  - NotPractical 8mo ago
    Piracy is not the only risk when someone grabs your app binary, but also cracked versions with ads removed, or subscription checks disabled.
    - raw_anon_1111 8mo ago
      They can already grab your binary by using third party tools or by using the Apple Configurator from what I’m seeing. TIL: iPhone backups on computers stopped including full ipa’s back in 2017…
      - NotPractical 8mo ago
        They're encrypted using FairPlay, so you need either a jailbroken iPhone or a "jailbroken" (SIP bypass while SIP is enabled) Mac to decrypt them. The former will stop being possible soon enough, the latter will likely remain possible for quite some time.
in_cahoots 8mo ago
We got my son a Mac Mini when he was 6. I was surprised at how many kid games just didn't work with the Mac, or how many did work but didn't support an external microphone and camera. I guess since most young kids have iPads or Chromebooks there's no market.