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We will be lucky if this does not start WWIII. What are the Kurds supposed to get in the "deal" to go against Iran? It is pretty much guaranteed they wont get
by watwut 8mo ago
We will be lucky if this does not start WWIII.
What are the Kurds supposed to get in the "deal" to go against Iran? It is pretty much guaranteed they wont get anything except betrayal in the long term, so it must be something "right now".
- alephnerd 8mo agoThe KRG is different from the YPG/PKK led Syrian Kurds. A significant portion of Israel's leadership are ethnic Kurdish as well with continued blood ties in Iraqi Kurdistan (eg. Ben Gvir).
- markus_zhang 8mo agoThere is a piece of news from CNN that says CIA arming them to fight Iran: https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/03/politics/cia-arming-kurds-iran https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/03/politics/cia-arming-kurds-ira...
- watwut 8mo agoIt does not answer my question - what will the Kurds get. That article makes it super clear what USA and Israel get. It says nothing about what Kurds get. And crucially, it does not says that Kurds agreed yet, it says that CIA is trying to make it happen. And the history is Kurds helping USA just to be abandoned later on. If they settled for some long term promises, they would be stupid. So, lets assume they get something in short term.
- markus_zhang 8mo agoI do not know exactly. But I think they might be able to get their own official country somewhere in between Iraq and Iran.
- watwut 8mo agoThe problem is with own official country between Iraq and Iran is that it is long term promise. Will USA and Israel hold on their word a year or two later? Assuming success of course. Can Kurds rely on Trump administration and its succeeding administration to keep the word here? Will they?
- markus_zhang 8mo agoI think it’s better to rely on themselves. But I do think IL would like to have them as an ally. Just my guess though.
- mothballed 8mo agoThe Kurd aren't dumb. They know they'll be betrayed. It's still their best shot. Many of them have been hanging out in the mountains for decades waiting for an opportunity like this. They are going to take it whether the US helps them further or not -- even if they don't they are likely to be blamed and punished as if they had while the regime lashes out. Surely they'll accept pallets the US is about to drop to them.
- sph 8mo agoCIA and arming paramilitary groups to fight the US enemies with massive ramifications over the decades, name a better duo
- BoredPositron 8mo agoCan't believe I am saying it but the tax rates during the WWs gave the whole system a needed reset... like we do now and WWIII might the only way to get it through.
- markus_zhang 8mo agoI kinda said the same thing about the Cold War. But with AI and such, I'm afraid that they are going to just fast track AI development and deployment because AI has the potential and they don't want to lag behind.
- mrguyorama 8mo agoThis was only the case because FDR wanted entry level socialism and disliked how capitalism was doing things and he had immense popular support and then once the USA couldn't avoid the war any longer, real, undeniable power to change things, and was followed up by an administration who wanted to continue his work and wanted to again limit the capital class from running the US and genuinely wanted a Democratic future for the world. Big war policy under fiscal conservatives looks like the GWOT, they will just charge everything to the Country credit card, rack up tens of Trillions of Dollars bombing sand, and bombing the sand again when it doesn't magically turn into an allied country, because then if they ever lose control of the Whitehouse they can scream about the debt and austerity for another term, and get to cut taxes for rich people and maybe finally kill that horrific welfare state that FDR made. IE, what you are seeing now is literally the wealthy class's response to that WW2 reset. They've been itching to "Make America Great Again" for them and their class alone ever since.