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In the same way they can(not) do it on Pixel phones - and I would be surprised if Google was not already cooperating with the state actors. You do what you can.

by spaqin 8mo ago

In the same way they can(not) do it on Pixel phones - and I would be surprised if Google was not already cooperating with the state actors. You do what you can. Even open source drivers (which are not gonna happen when operating within tightly regulated radio bands) won't help if there's a hardware backdoor.

Barbing 8mo ago
Ah nice so leave the phones in another room Easy but for missing Step 1 of “Colocate with friends and business partners”
- lotyrin 8mo ago
  Just only ever speak in a language of your own invention that uses both cryptographic and steganographic techniques which you invented while colocated, maybe.
  - RealityVoid 8mo ago
    I can't wait until we're all mentats each speaking our custom encrypted pidgin. That will surely help with communication and world peace! Not your keys, not your speech!
- vladms 8mo ago
  I personally am more afraid of what "someone" can convince other people to do rather than listening to me. Sadly there are enough people that are easily manipulated that probably the "smarter" people are completely ignored. If I would be to place a bet I would place it on mass propaganda targeting people below average - it might be simpler, easier and cost effective. So lots of this talk about "encryption", "privacy" might be in fact great for those "actors": smart people worry about their precious technology and principles, while "they" talk to "the masses".
Terr_ 8mo ago
The way I see it, I don't have much direct control over the actualities of that kind of nation-state spying stuff. However: 1. I can direct my consumer-dollars towards the vendors that promise to respect ownership and privacy in general, and they will also have the most to lose if they are caught enabling spying. 2. Defense in depth. Security features generally add to the spying's difficulty, expense, or risk of detection, and that in turn decreases the incentive for abuse.

by spaqin 8mo ago

Barbing 8mo ago

Ah nice so leave the phones in another room Easy but for missing Step 1 of “Colocate with friends and business partners”

lotyrin 8mo ago
Just only ever speak in a language of your own invention that uses both cryptographic and steganographic techniques which you invented while colocated, maybe.
- RealityVoid 8mo ago
  I can't wait until we're all mentats each speaking our custom encrypted pidgin. That will surely help with communication and world peace! Not your keys, not your speech!
vladms 8mo ago
I personally am more afraid of what "someone" can convince other people to do rather than listening to me. Sadly there are enough people that are easily manipulated that probably the "smarter" people are completely ignored. If I would be to place a bet I would place it on mass propaganda targeting people below average - it might be simpler, easier and cost effective. So lots of this talk about "encryption", "privacy" might be in fact great for those "actors": smart people worry about their precious technology and principles, while "they" talk to "the masses".

Terr_ 8mo ago

The way I see it, I don't have much direct control over the actualities of that kind of nation-state spying stuff. However: 1. I can direct my consumer-dollars towards the vendors that promise to respect ownership and privacy in general, and they will also have the most to lose if they are caught enabling spying. 2. Defense in depth. Security features generally add to the spying's difficulty, expense, or risk of detection, and that in turn decreases the incentive for abuse.