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Where are your stats from? Pedestrian deaths across the US are at near all-time highs, but in contrast SF reports drops: https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/20

• cyberax 7mo ago
  Sigh. You people are like these climate change deniers who are saying that "the climate is cooling" because this year is slightly cooler than the previous one. Your own article has a chart with the number of deaths by year, and the noisy upward trend from 2016 is pretty clear. But I admit that I did not check the data for 2025 before I wrote my post. So my post can be amended to: "Increased or stayed the same". There is definitely no _decrease_ compared to the previous state.
  • hn_user82179 7mo ago
    Idk who "you people" is referring to. But the trends for the cities who have been spending moneys on these improvements are better than nationwide. Not to mention the article we're discussing (improvements in Helsinki) explicitly attribute the decrease in traffic deaths to the same kind of improvements Seattle/Portland/SF have been making.
    • cyberax 7mo ago
      Better how? On what metrics? Pedestrian deaths did not go down: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47242382 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47242382 > Not to mention the article we're discussing (improvements in Helsinki) explicitly attribute the decrease in traffic deaths to the same kind of improvements Seattle/Portland/SF have been making. Let me repeat another poster here: "Correlation is not causation". Who's to say that Helsinki wouldn't have had zero deaths even without these changes?
• busterarm 7mo ago
  Population in SF is also decreasing by large single digit numbers.