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The disruption in gas supply will be very short. Weeks, at most. The gulf states will be very happy to see the Islamic Republic gone, they are living in its sha

The disruption in gas supply will be very short. Weeks, at most. The gulf states will be very happy to see the Islamic Republic gone, they are living in its shadow for a long time now. Now, Ukraine and Israel need very different kinds of support, and things like US withholding intelligence from Ukraine have nothing to do with Israel.

hedora 7mo ago
Iran has been bombing production facilities across a bunch of US allies. It's unclear how quickly those will be rebuilt. Also, the US is probably bombing Iranian production, which means countries like China will be looking for additional sources.
throwaw12 7mo ago
I wonder why Israel should get any support, do you support killing children and bombing schools? Ukraine, I understand, because it was attacked, but Israel, who was oppressing people for so many years with prisons full with Palestinian kids and teenagers long before Oct 7th, I really don't understand. Except, for Epstein reasons (blackmail), other than that, there is no reason US should support Israel, in any way
- dttze 7mo ago
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- flyinglizard 7mo ago
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  - throwaw12 7mo ago
    > supporting Israel right to exist, for me, is the right thing 1. Does US fight to support only right things? 2. Is Palestinian right to exist is the right thing as well?
  - chmod775 7mo ago
    > values align with those of the US Some values those are. Yikes.
    - flyinglizard 7mo ago
      More chances than not that you live in a country that benefitted from the American propensity to do the right thing, even at a huge cost to itself. Yes we have a different and more selfish America now, but all said, America still protects the world order that allows this conversation to exist.
      - throwaw12 7mo ago
        we don't need good boys, we need good laws where everyone is equal and punished equally for violating the common moral principles, e.g. for being a pedophile
      - chmod775 7mo ago
        Everyone is the hero in their own story - that's why nationalism can be so dangerous - yet seeing how it plays out in individuals is endlessly fascinating to me.
      - Hikikomori 7mo ago
        For Iran the wrong th8ing they did was to stop giving all oil profits to others.
  - readitalready 7mo ago
    There is no moral justification for Israel's right to exist. Israel does not have a right to exist. They exist purely as a foreign invasion force originally started by European Jews - who didn't even practice or believe in Judaism - in order to make their own private racist mediterranean resort state by killing the native people and stealing their land. What makes you think anyone would want support their existence over the rights of the existing Palestinian people that lived there and are currently fighting to reclaim their homes? Religions do not have a right of inheritance. A person can't claim your home when you die because they also happen to be Christian. The only legal inheritance are those with title. And no one from Europe that decided to attack and invade Palestine can show any deed or title to the land they claimed to "own" 2000 years ago when they decided to move to Europe. So, no. The state of Israel exists purely as a criminal enterprise of murder and theft. Let's not encourage its continued existence.
    - lukan 7mo ago
      You do realize most Israelis were born there? Having a right to live where you are born is a pretty fundamental one.
      - bdangubic 7mo ago
        President Trump would hard disagree with you on that one
        lukan 7mo ago
        Fortunately he is not undisputed king of america, yet.
        readitalready 7mo ago
        lol the Israelis would also disagree, otherwise they would have let the Palestinians live with them instead of literally going village-to-village, and door-to-door to forcibly remove the Palestinian residents or be killed if they didn't. If the state of Israel doesn't believe in native rights, then you shouldn't believe in supporting their native rights either.
karmakurtisaani 7mo ago
> The disruption in gas supply will be very short. Remember when W declared mission accomplished? That war was so short too. > The gulf states will be very happy to see the Islamic Republic gone Would they be happy to see a devastating civil war that gives rise to a successor of ISIS or Taleban? Will they happily accept tens of millions of refugees? Absolutely nothing good will come from this dumbfuck war. We all will pay the price of it one way or another.

hedora 7mo ago

Iran has been bombing production facilities across a bunch of US allies. It's unclear how quickly those will be rebuilt. Also, the US is probably bombing Iranian production, which means countries like China will be looking for additional sources.

throwaw12 7mo ago

I wonder why Israel should get any support, do you support killing children and bombing schools? Ukraine, I understand, because it was attacked, but Israel, who was oppressing people for so many years with prisons full with Palestinian kids and teenagers long before Oct 7th, I really don't understand. Except, for Epstein reasons (blackmail), other than that, there is no reason US should support Israel, in any way

dttze 7mo ago
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flyinglizard 7mo ago
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- throwaw12 7mo ago
  > supporting Israel right to exist, for me, is the right thing 1. Does US fight to support only right things? 2. Is Palestinian right to exist is the right thing as well?
- chmod775 7mo ago
  > values align with those of the US Some values those are. Yikes.
  - flyinglizard 7mo ago
    More chances than not that you live in a country that benefitted from the American propensity to do the right thing, even at a huge cost to itself. Yes we have a different and more selfish America now, but all said, America still protects the world order that allows this conversation to exist.
    - throwaw12 7mo ago
      we don't need good boys, we need good laws where everyone is equal and punished equally for violating the common moral principles, e.g. for being a pedophile
    - chmod775 7mo ago
      Everyone is the hero in their own story - that's why nationalism can be so dangerous - yet seeing how it plays out in individuals is endlessly fascinating to me.
    - Hikikomori 7mo ago
      For Iran the wrong th8ing they did was to stop giving all oil profits to others.
- readitalready 7mo ago
  There is no moral justification for Israel's right to exist. Israel does not have a right to exist. They exist purely as a foreign invasion force originally started by European Jews - who didn't even practice or believe in Judaism - in order to make their own private racist mediterranean resort state by killing the native people and stealing their land. What makes you think anyone would want support their existence over the rights of the existing Palestinian people that lived there and are currently fighting to reclaim their homes? Religions do not have a right of inheritance. A person can't claim your home when you die because they also happen to be Christian. The only legal inheritance are those with title. And no one from Europe that decided to attack and invade Palestine can show any deed or title to the land they claimed to "own" 2000 years ago when they decided to move to Europe. So, no. The state of Israel exists purely as a criminal enterprise of murder and theft. Let's not encourage its continued existence.
  - lukan 7mo ago
    You do realize most Israelis were born there? Having a right to live where you are born is a pretty fundamental one.
    - bdangubic 7mo ago
      President Trump would hard disagree with you on that one
      - lukan 7mo ago
        Fortunately he is not undisputed king of america, yet.
        readitalready 7mo ago
        lol the Israelis would also disagree, otherwise they would have let the Palestinians live with them instead of literally going village-to-village, and door-to-door to forcibly remove the Palestinian residents or be killed if they didn't. If the state of Israel doesn't believe in native rights, then you shouldn't believe in supporting their native rights either.

karmakurtisaani 7mo ago

> The disruption in gas supply will be very short. Remember when W declared mission accomplished? That war was so short too. > The gulf states will be very happy to see the Islamic Republic gone Would they be happy to see a devastating civil war that gives rise to a successor of ISIS or Taleban? Will they happily accept tens of millions of refugees? Absolutely nothing good will come from this dumbfuck war. We all will pay the price of it one way or another.