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If it were that straightforward, right now the US would (A) have a consistent set of demands/goals that include shipping security and (B) a large international

by Terr_ 8mo ago

If it were that straightforward, right now the US would (A) have a consistent set of demands/goals that include shipping security and (B) a large international coalition of support. Neither are true. P.S.: Plus, of course, the whole problem where "protecting global sea lanes" typically requires a different approach than "start a war by assassinating the leadership you were negotiating with."

bagels 8mo ago
JD vance whined that we shouldn't protect middle east shipping lanes because he believes it helps Europe more than the US.
- IncreasePosts 8mo ago
  Don't make me defend JD vance. He said Europe should pay their fair share for protection since 40% of their trade passes through those lanes but only 3% of America's.
  - tw-20260303-001 8mo ago
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    - IncreasePosts 8mo ago
      You really think the US should stop supporting Ukraine?
      - tw-20260303-001 8mo ago
        Who's talking about Ukraine here. Have you lost your mind? The comment you replied to talks about Middle East shipping routes.
        IncreasePosts 8mo ago
        There's a war in the shipping lanes?
        Jensson 8mo ago
        Yes, Iran sits next to one of the most important shipping lanes in the world.
        tw-20260303-001 8mo ago
        Yes, you have lost your mind. Or you're an LLM.
      - mongol 8mo ago
        The US is hardly supporting Ukraine any longer.
  - datsci_est_2015 8mo ago
    Why focus on the consumer side, especially when so many of the current administration are brazenly in bed with the regimes that benefit from free oil flow in the region? (Kushner & MBS) You’re not forced to repeat his rhetoric, maybe think critically about it.
  - vkou 8mo ago
    How much of the destabilization of North Africa and the Middle East is America's responsibility, and how much did Europe pay in absorbing refugees from it? Should Germany be sending DC a bill? If I recall correctly, America didn't even say 'Thank you'...
bawolff 8mo ago
US messaging has been all over the place, but stop funding proxies has been one of the more consistent parts. To be clear, im not saying protecting shipping is the primary reason for this war. I'm just saying if that is what you think usa should be doing, then this war makes sense. As far as b) there are a lot of factors. Its not like freedom of navigation is the top concern of every country in the world.

by Terr_ 8mo ago

bagels 8mo ago

JD vance whined that we shouldn't protect middle east shipping lanes because he believes it helps Europe more than the US.

IncreasePosts 8mo ago
Don't make me defend JD vance. He said Europe should pay their fair share for protection since 40% of their trade passes through those lanes but only 3% of America's.
- tw-20260303-001 8mo ago
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  - IncreasePosts 8mo ago
    You really think the US should stop supporting Ukraine?
    - tw-20260303-001 8mo ago
      Who's talking about Ukraine here. Have you lost your mind? The comment you replied to talks about Middle East shipping routes.
      - IncreasePosts 8mo ago
        There's a war in the shipping lanes?
        Jensson 8mo ago
        Yes, Iran sits next to one of the most important shipping lanes in the world.
        tw-20260303-001 8mo ago
        Yes, you have lost your mind. Or you're an LLM.
    - mongol 8mo ago
      The US is hardly supporting Ukraine any longer.
- datsci_est_2015 8mo ago
  Why focus on the consumer side, especially when so many of the current administration are brazenly in bed with the regimes that benefit from free oil flow in the region? (Kushner & MBS) You’re not forced to repeat his rhetoric, maybe think critically about it.
- vkou 8mo ago
  How much of the destabilization of North Africa and the Middle East is America's responsibility, and how much did Europe pay in absorbing refugees from it? Should Germany be sending DC a bill? If I recall correctly, America didn't even say 'Thank you'...

bawolff 8mo ago

US messaging has been all over the place, but stop funding proxies has been one of the more consistent parts. To be clear, im not saying protecting shipping is the primary reason for this war. I'm just saying if that is what you think usa should be doing, then this war makes sense. As far as b) there are a lot of factors. Its not like freedom of navigation is the top concern of every country in the world.