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The unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance

21 points by turrini 7mo ago

jjgreen 7mo ago
Easy, "For legal reasons, this OS is not available in California"
- szmarczak 7mo ago
  This is the way. California wants stupid (even immoral) laws? Companies cannot use those OS? Oh noes, what a shame. Also, why the age brackets? It should be a simple boolean whether the user is an adult or not. Age brackets enable targeting. Also the idea itself is just useless because kids will just learn to patch binaries.
- szmarczak 7mo ago
  I just realized. Does this mean that developing an OS without age checks is illegal in those states?
everdrive 7mo ago
Do we know whether any Linux distributions will be refusing to implement anything like this?
- jasomill 7mo ago
  I'd personally love to see the fireworks if Microsoft refuses to implement this, and takes no action to prevent Windows from being imported into or used in California? How could California plausibly respond that would harm Microsoft more than its own economy?
  - everdrive 7mo ago
    Microsoft would never do that. They'll rebrand this as "Defender of Verification," package it into a bigger deal where you have no idea what you're buying, and then find a way to cram AI into it.
wtallis 7mo ago
It seems shortsighted to define the age bracket API specifically around California's chosen four brackets. Why not merely return two integers bounding the age bracket, so that the API can adapt to different regulatory environments?
evanjrowley 7mo ago
Perhaps they should release a "Kids" version of Ubuntu for regions where age verification is important. Use it as an opportunity to promote the "Ubuntu Core" architecture (i.e., "immutable" Ubuntu) just like Microsoft did with Windows "S" editions.
- Jigsy 7mo ago
  Edubuntu comes to mind.
thesuperbigfrog 7mo ago
An official response from Ubuntu: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntus-response-to-californias-digital-age-assurance-act-ab-1043/77948 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntus-response-to-californi... The email linked here are ideas from an Ubuntu contributor, not an official response.

21 points by turrini 7mo ago

jjgreen 7mo ago

Easy, "For legal reasons, this OS is not available in California"

szmarczak 7mo ago
This is the way. California wants stupid (even immoral) laws? Companies cannot use those OS? Oh noes, what a shame. Also, why the age brackets? It should be a simple boolean whether the user is an adult or not. Age brackets enable targeting. Also the idea itself is just useless because kids will just learn to patch binaries.
szmarczak 7mo ago
I just realized. Does this mean that developing an OS without age checks is illegal in those states?

everdrive 7mo ago

Do we know whether any Linux distributions will be refusing to implement anything like this?

jasomill 7mo ago
I'd personally love to see the fireworks if Microsoft refuses to implement this, and takes no action to prevent Windows from being imported into or used in California? How could California plausibly respond that would harm Microsoft more than its own economy?
- everdrive 7mo ago
  Microsoft would never do that. They'll rebrand this as "Defender of Verification," package it into a bigger deal where you have no idea what you're buying, and then find a way to cram AI into it.

wtallis 7mo ago

It seems shortsighted to define the age bracket API specifically around California's chosen four brackets. Why not merely return two integers bounding the age bracket, so that the API can adapt to different regulatory environments?

evanjrowley 7mo ago

Perhaps they should release a "Kids" version of Ubuntu for regions where age verification is important. Use it as an opportunity to promote the "Ubuntu Core" architecture (i.e., "immutable" Ubuntu) just like Microsoft did with Windows "S" editions.

Jigsy 7mo ago
Edubuntu comes to mind.

thesuperbigfrog 7mo ago

An official response from Ubuntu: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntus-response-to-californias-digital-age-assurance-act-ab-1043/77948 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntus-response-to-californi... The email linked here are ideas from an Ubuntu contributor, not an official response.