4 ms·

This article ended up pretty light on details, but a lot more information about us here: https://zapier.com/blog/2012/10/31/zapier-100-connected-services-year-r

by bryanh 14y ago

This article ended up pretty light on details, but a lot more information about us here: https://zapier.com/blog/2012/10/31/zapier-100-connected-services-year-review/ https://zapier.com/blog/2012/10/31/zapier-100-connected-serv... via http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4723588 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4723588

asparagui 14y ago
Congrats! I really like the startup weekend pic in the garage. >:3
mikeknoop 14y ago
Yup I highly encourage anyone interested in the back-story to give the above blog post a read. It is an overview of our last year (from inception till now). EDIT: HN link here http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4723588 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4723588
timjahn 14y ago
Great post outlining the history/journey of you guys. Must read for sure!
cdelsolar 14y ago
Congrats! You guys have a great service.
255martyn 14y ago
Hey congratulations!!! Zapier.com is a great idea wonderfully executed.
wamatt 14y ago
Fantastic story, and I was initially excited for, and promoting Zapier. But then a simple request for single folder Dropbox access, seemed to fall on deaf ears. I don't have a personal agenda other than good citizenship and concern for best practices that affect the community. If you're dumping a file to my Dropbox, why do you need full read access to all folders? If you adding a note to Evernote, why do you need full r/w access to my entire note store? etc etc The simple answer is often it's not needed. For example, Wappwolf gets it right in this case (http://i.imgur.com/Ug5Fi.png http://i.imgur.com/Ug5Fi.png), by allowing the freedom to choose. Sure it's simply easier and less hassle for a startup to deal with things like users privacy concerns. However, if anything, it's an opportunity for you guys to be leading and setting the example in restricted, 'only what you require', SaaS security model. This idea of giving exponentially more startups, complete access to your increasingly critical online services, does not seem wise at all. Apologies for a bit of a rant, just rather passionate about this issue, and hope you guys will take it seriously :)
- bryanh 14y ago
  More nuanced scope settings are definitely something we'd like to do. Put simply, we just haven't had a chance to get to it quite yet, but we're definitely hearing more requests for it and we want to honor those requests. We're working on it!
  - wamatt 14y ago
    Good stuff :) Actually wasn't concerned with timelines, but rather a principle statement of agreement or disagreement. Of course there are pragmatic issues, but also its very easy for startups in public diplomatic relations to say "yup sure" and have little interest in following through. (not saying that is necessarily the case here of course) Hence why I was raising the question at the principle level, rather than a specific feature level to be slotted in with all the other todo's. Like I said before.. I have personally nothing to gain from this implementation. But if it takes more users to request it then so be it for you to notice then so be it. I will continue to raise awareness of the greater issue here. (Beyond Zapier as well)
- mikeknoop 14y ago
  We have so many apps and requests every single day we have to prioritize what people are willing to pay for first. Wappwolf does have better permissions here (which we'd also like to support) but they don't have 117 apps to support alongside it. Startups are not asking for this stuff maliciously -- there are only so many hours in the day and we have to prioritize.
  - wamatt 14y ago
    To be honest this comes across a little defensive and a bit elitist. It is irrelevant if someone is paying customer or not, as you have no idea how much future business they will do with your company, or what blogger or friend of the press she or he talks to at social gathering etc etc. A simple "Yup you're right privacy is important. Thanks for the headsup, we are gonna work on it!" would be a more effective response (assuming it's true). Or if that's not true then: "Well, we not sure if it's important but lets see if more users request it and if they pay us, then will probably look into it! :)"

by bryanh 14y ago

asparagui 14y ago

Congrats! I really like the startup weekend pic in the garage. >:3

mikeknoop 14y ago

Yup I highly encourage anyone interested in the back-story to give the above blog post a read. It is an overview of our last year (from inception till now). EDIT: HN link here http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4723588 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4723588

timjahn 14y ago

Great post outlining the history/journey of you guys. Must read for sure!

cdelsolar 14y ago

Congrats! You guys have a great service.

255martyn 14y ago

Hey congratulations!!! Zapier.com is a great idea wonderfully executed.

wamatt 14y ago

Fantastic story, and I was initially excited for, and promoting Zapier. But then a simple request for single folder Dropbox access, seemed to fall on deaf ears. I don't have a personal agenda other than good citizenship and concern for best practices that affect the community. If you're dumping a file to my Dropbox, why do you need full read access to all folders? If you adding a note to Evernote, why do you need full r/w access to my entire note store? etc etc The simple answer is often it's not needed. For example, Wappwolf gets it right in this case (http://i.imgur.com/Ug5Fi.png http://i.imgur.com/Ug5Fi.png), by allowing the freedom to choose. Sure it's simply easier and less hassle for a startup to deal with things like users privacy concerns. However, if anything, it's an opportunity for you guys to be leading and setting the example in restricted, 'only what you require', SaaS security model. This idea of giving exponentially more startups, complete access to your increasingly critical online services, does not seem wise at all. Apologies for a bit of a rant, just rather passionate about this issue, and hope you guys will take it seriously :)

bryanh 14y ago
More nuanced scope settings are definitely something we'd like to do. Put simply, we just haven't had a chance to get to it quite yet, but we're definitely hearing more requests for it and we want to honor those requests. We're working on it!
- wamatt 14y ago
  Good stuff :) Actually wasn't concerned with timelines, but rather a principle statement of agreement or disagreement. Of course there are pragmatic issues, but also its very easy for startups in public diplomatic relations to say "yup sure" and have little interest in following through. (not saying that is necessarily the case here of course) Hence why I was raising the question at the principle level, rather than a specific feature level to be slotted in with all the other todo's. Like I said before.. I have personally nothing to gain from this implementation. But if it takes more users to request it then so be it for you to notice then so be it. I will continue to raise awareness of the greater issue here. (Beyond Zapier as well)
mikeknoop 14y ago
We have so many apps and requests every single day we have to prioritize what people are willing to pay for first. Wappwolf does have better permissions here (which we'd also like to support) but they don't have 117 apps to support alongside it. Startups are not asking for this stuff maliciously -- there are only so many hours in the day and we have to prioritize.
- wamatt 14y ago
  To be honest this comes across a little defensive and a bit elitist. It is irrelevant if someone is paying customer or not, as you have no idea how much future business they will do with your company, or what blogger or friend of the press she or he talks to at social gathering etc etc. A simple "Yup you're right privacy is important. Thanks for the headsup, we are gonna work on it!" would be a more effective response (assuming it's true). Or if that's not true then: "Well, we not sure if it's important but lets see if more users request it and if they pay us, then will probably look into it! :)"