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> The video game audience has decided, almost unanimously, that they don’t want generative AI in their games. Nah, it's just a very vocal minority making lots
by NitpickLawyer 8mo ago
> The video game audience has decided, almost unanimously, that they don’t want generative AI in their games.
Nah, it's just a very vocal minority making lots of noise. We're slowly starting to see saner minds prevail, with steam backtracking on the ban of aigen and so on. People don't care if the end result is good. And the "but muh art" is just virtue signalling. I've used this example before, for me "art" is the fact that I can have a horse as my ruler in EU, not the fact that the horse might be generated by a diffusion model. Art is always in the eye of the beholder, or something.
On a more general note, like with the question "where are all the good open source projects", things will come. We're still in the learning phase of this new shiny toy that we got. It's only been 3 years since the tech is readily available, and maybe 2 years since people can take offline models and run with them. Give it time.
In the meantime, I see a lot of help from agentic coding in game dev. I've been following a space rouguelite thingy on itch, the developer has been pumping updates every other day, and the game is pretty much ready in ~1month. Sure, some updates broke stuff, some things didn't make much sense, but the speed with which the dev could take the feedback and pump out an update is remarkable. Small projects are doing it today. Larger projects will probably do it tomorrow.
My guess is that there's a big chance that the next "big thing" in gameplay w/ AI being somehow used will come from a smaller team / single dev type of thing, and not the big labs. Something genre-defining like minecraft or tarkov.
- recursive 8mo agoIt's not only just signalling. I've never said anything about AI art in games before this moment, but if I become aware that a game has used it, I'm not getting that game. Signalling means you are doing the thing only to identify yourself to others as being in the tribe. That's kind of the opposite of my personal take.
- surgical_fire 8mo agoIt's always this massive cop out. "Things just got started. The future will be amazing". I heard this with IoT, Wearables, Cryptocurrency, VR, now Gen AI. Forgive me if after a while every vague gesture that "now it is for real" just becomes noise.
- NitpickLawyer 8mo ago> "Things just got stated. The future will be amazing". No no. The present is already amazing. If you don't see it yet it's on you. I've been having the most fun I've had in 25 years of doing this thing.
- surgical_fire 8mo agoI use AI frequently, both at work and on personal capacity. I am not exactly a hater. Your reply does not inspire much confidence. A personal anecdote that you love something is exactly the sort of response people got during the cryptocurrency hype cycle.
- badsectoracula 8mo agoI can download a ~20GB file to plug into a C++ program that runs completely on my own computer, which gives it some sort of 'brain' with a simplistic form of knowledge acquisition, to the point where i can talk to it with natural language and ask it to do stuff for me. Just yesterday i ran Devstral Small 2 under koboldcpp with a MCP server that exposes a few simple set-file-contents, get-file-contents, show-file-tree commands and i asked it "fix the formatting in foo1.h using foo2.h as a reference and add doxygen comments using the documentation from API.md" and it did it, all running on my own old PC with everything fitting in a 4 euro USB stick. To me this is amazing. Sure, there are a bunch of issues, but it far from anything reated to IoT/Wearables/Crypto/etc (VR despite being a niche has a lot of fans so i'm not sacking it with the rest). I couldn't even see myself caring about any of those, but i could see several ways how i could use AI/LLMs before i was even able to run one (though admittedly, not all things panned out as i expected :-P).