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I think it's a little telling that the best you can do is a seven year old article.

lern_too_spel 7mo ago
No other company makes you tell them every application you install on your device. No other company makes you tell them every location you read from your GPS sensor.
- blackqueeriroh 7mo ago
  Please, source this ridiculous claim
  - neya 7mo ago
    First page, first result on Google: https://andreafortuna.org/2025/11/30/hidden-metadata-reveals-what-your-iphone-silently-records-about-you https://andreafortuna.org/2025/11/30/hidden-metadata-reveals...
    - ua709 7mo ago
      I’m confused because to me that article just said the phone knows a lot about itself, things like what applications are installed, and if someone gets into the phone they can use forensic tools to know those things too. I didn’t see anything about Apple getting that information and nothing about Macs. The location stuff is very well known and is an inherent property of any modern networked device, unfortunately.
      - lern_too_spel 7mo ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47254357 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47254357
  - lern_too_spel 7mo ago
    Location: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/location-services/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/location-service... > To use features such as these, you must enable Location Services on your iPhone and give your permission to each app or website before it can receive location data from Location Services > By enabling Location Services for your devices, you agree and consent to the transmission, collection, maintenance, processing, and use of your location data and location search queries by Apple and its partners and licensees to provide and improve location-based and road traffic-based products and services. Android and every other consumer general purpose OS lets you read GPS coordinates from the sensor without telling anyone. App installs: Any app installed from the App Store obviously tells Apple you installed it. Apple does certificate verification for every side-loaded app, where Apple is the CA. There is no way to install an app on iOS without telling Apple. Android and every other consumer general purpose OS lets you install apps without telling anyone.
neya 7mo ago
So, somehow now they are the beacons of privacy and we should just ignore their history of spying on their users?

No other company makes you tell them every application you install on your device. No other company makes you tell them every location you read from your GPS sensor.

blackqueeriroh 7mo ago
Please, source this ridiculous claim
- neya 7mo ago
  First page, first result on Google: https://andreafortuna.org/2025/11/30/hidden-metadata-reveals-what-your-iphone-silently-records-about-you https://andreafortuna.org/2025/11/30/hidden-metadata-reveals...
  - ua709 7mo ago
    I’m confused because to me that article just said the phone knows a lot about itself, things like what applications are installed, and if someone gets into the phone they can use forensic tools to know those things too. I didn’t see anything about Apple getting that information and nothing about Macs. The location stuff is very well known and is an inherent property of any modern networked device, unfortunately.
    - lern_too_spel 7mo ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47254357 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47254357
- lern_too_spel 7mo ago
  Location: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/location-services/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/location-service... > To use features such as these, you must enable Location Services on your iPhone and give your permission to each app or website before it can receive location data from Location Services > By enabling Location Services for your devices, you agree and consent to the transmission, collection, maintenance, processing, and use of your location data and location search queries by Apple and its partners and licensees to provide and improve location-based and road traffic-based products and services. Android and every other consumer general purpose OS lets you read GPS coordinates from the sensor without telling anyone. App installs: Any app installed from the App Store obviously tells Apple you installed it. Apple does certificate verification for every side-loaded app, where Apple is the CA. There is no way to install an app on iOS without telling Apple. Android and every other consumer general purpose OS lets you install apps without telling anyone.

neya 7mo ago

So, somehow now they are the beacons of privacy and we should just ignore their history of spying on their users?