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Why would you want to do that? Do you like the hardware that much, and also that much more than just an M2 (soon M3) running Asahi? Linux in a VM would work wi

Why would you want to do that? Do you like the hardware that much, and also that much more than just an M2 (soon M3) running Asahi? Linux in a VM would work with the usual caveats. Periphery like the built-in webcam most likely won't work. Getting codecs and DRM to run will be pain and you'll be back to use macOS for that quickly (but that's just standard pain of ARM Linux).

kwanbix 7mo ago
Because I don't like MacOS and my understanding is that Asahi has issues with: * USB-C Displays * Thunderbolt / USB4 * Touch ID Touch ID is the least of the problems, but the other two are more serious.
- pbmonster 7mo ago
  > my understanding is that Asahi has issues with: * USB-C Displays * Thunderbolt / USB4 * Touch ID Valid. USB-C displays are on the horizon, the rest will take significant time (and might never materialize, it's difficult to reverse engineer). > Because I don't like MacOS Then spending thousands on modern MacBook will be a subpar experience, no matter how you do it. But yes, Linux will run OK inside a VM on a MacBook.
  - kwanbix 7mo ago
    I know. I wish Apple for once did the nice gesture and provide documentation. Whoever is happy with MacOS, uses MacOS, whoever is happy with Linux (or BSD) uses Linux. I guess a great deal of devs/techies would migrate to Macbooks. I don't know if it is corporate greediness or corporate stupidity.
    - pbmonster 7mo ago
      It's the greed. Apple only makes around 8% of revenue through hardware sales of all Macs combined. "Services" (App Store, iCloud, Music, TV+, ect.) make more than 3x more revenue. Then, profit margin on services is again 3x higher than on Mac hardware. So they really want all Mac users also use Services. If your proposed change increases Mac sales by 1%, but only 0.1% of users install Asahi, they lose money. I'm still watching out for Asahi progress, amazing project. USB-C displays and the M3 will come (and I don't care to much for the rest), that makes a refurbished macbook air an attractive proposition.

kwanbix 7mo ago

Because I don't like MacOS and my understanding is that Asahi has issues with: * USB-C Displays * Thunderbolt / USB4 * Touch ID Touch ID is the least of the problems, but the other two are more serious.

pbmonster 7mo ago
> my understanding is that Asahi has issues with: * USB-C Displays * Thunderbolt / USB4 * Touch ID Valid. USB-C displays are on the horizon, the rest will take significant time (and might never materialize, it's difficult to reverse engineer). > Because I don't like MacOS Then spending thousands on modern MacBook will be a subpar experience, no matter how you do it. But yes, Linux will run OK inside a VM on a MacBook.
- kwanbix 7mo ago
  I know. I wish Apple for once did the nice gesture and provide documentation. Whoever is happy with MacOS, uses MacOS, whoever is happy with Linux (or BSD) uses Linux. I guess a great deal of devs/techies would migrate to Macbooks. I don't know if it is corporate greediness or corporate stupidity.
  - pbmonster 7mo ago
    It's the greed. Apple only makes around 8% of revenue through hardware sales of all Macs combined. "Services" (App Store, iCloud, Music, TV+, ect.) make more than 3x more revenue. Then, profit margin on services is again 3x higher than on Mac hardware. So they really want all Mac users also use Services. If your proposed change increases Mac sales by 1%, but only 0.1% of users install Asahi, they lose money. I'm still watching out for Asahi progress, amazing project. USB-C displays and the M3 will come (and I don't care to much for the rest), that makes a refurbished macbook air an attractive proposition.