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Great news. Apple announced a 120hz display today.

troupo 7mo ago
There are other 120Hz displays than Apple's. There are even 240Hz displays. IIRC Apple couldn't get above 60Hz even on third-party displays they explicitly advertised.
- pwthornton 7mo ago
  There are 5k displays at 240hz?
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- cosmic_cheese 7mo ago
  I have an Alienware AW2721D and my M series Macs have no problem driving it at 240hz. macOS picks up that it’s a GSync display and supports VRR on it too.
  - troupo 7mo ago
    I could never get my two ASUS displays work at anything but 60Hz
    - cosmic_cheese 7mo ago
      My other setup has an ASUS PA278CGV as a secondary monitor and the MBP hooked up to it drives it at 144hz no problem. Make sure your dock, dongle, and/or cables aren’t bottlenecks.
      - troupo 7mo ago
        > Make sure your dock, dongle, and/or cables aren’t bottlenecks. I've switched docks, dongles, cables, to no avail. Support also varies a lot between M chips, and Thunderbolt often doesn't support high refresh rates https://support.apple.com/en-us/101571 https://support.apple.com/en-us/101571 I can't remember now the actual setup I had, sadly
- post_break 7mo ago
  Driving my LG oled at 120hz over HDMI. What?
- izacus 7mo ago
  ? Both of my LG ultrawides work at 144Hz?
- jdgoesmarching 7mo ago
  How many 27” 5k 120hz+ high PPI are shipping right now? Reddit is particularly clowning on this for the refresh rate and completely ignoring the resolution.
  - pwthornton 7mo ago
    This is a workstation-class monitor for people using these machines to make money. It's not a gamer toy monitor. People on Reddit don't get this. Apple's monitors are fantastic for those of us who use our computers to make money and need high quality. I am not playing video games on the same machine I use to make money.
- FireBeyond 7mo ago
  (I think) what you are thinking of was something introduced around the Catalina>Big Sur transition, when the Pro Display XDR was introduced. At the time, people were "marveling" at the magic of Apple, and wondering how they did the math to make that display work within bandwidth constraints. The simple answer was "by completely fucking with DP 1.4 DSC". I had at the time a 2019 (cheesegrater) Mac Pro. I had two Asus 27" 4K HDR 144Hz monitors, that the Mac had no problems driving under Catalina. Install Big Sur. Nope. With the monitors advertising DP 1.4, my options were SDR@95Hz, HDR@60Hz. I wasn't the only one, hundreds of people complaining, different monitors, cards, cables. I could downgrade to Catalina: HDR@144Hz sprung back to life. Hell, I could on the monitors tell them to advertise DP 1.2 support, which actually improved performance, and I think I got SDR@120Hz, HDR@95Hz (IIRC). So you don't deserve downvotes on this. Apple absolutely ignored standards and broke functionality for third party screens just to get the Pro Display XDR (which, ironically, I own, although now it's being driven by an M2 Studio, versus the space heater that was the Xeon cheesegrater).
- evanjrowley 7mo ago
  My MacBook M3 Air & Pro laptops can run two QHD displays with one at 240 Hz and the other at 120 Hz. What it can't do is run either above 60 Hz with HDR enabled. But for my use cases, I've never need more than 60 Hz anyway.

There are other 120Hz displays than Apple's. There are even 240Hz displays. IIRC Apple couldn't get above 60Hz even on third-party displays they explicitly advertised.

pwthornton 7mo ago
There are 5k displays at 240hz?
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cosmic_cheese 7mo ago
I have an Alienware AW2721D and my M series Macs have no problem driving it at 240hz. macOS picks up that it’s a GSync display and supports VRR on it too.
- troupo 7mo ago
  I could never get my two ASUS displays work at anything but 60Hz
  - cosmic_cheese 7mo ago
    My other setup has an ASUS PA278CGV as a secondary monitor and the MBP hooked up to it drives it at 144hz no problem. Make sure your dock, dongle, and/or cables aren’t bottlenecks.
    - troupo 7mo ago
      > Make sure your dock, dongle, and/or cables aren’t bottlenecks. I've switched docks, dongles, cables, to no avail. Support also varies a lot between M chips, and Thunderbolt often doesn't support high refresh rates https://support.apple.com/en-us/101571 https://support.apple.com/en-us/101571 I can't remember now the actual setup I had, sadly
post_break 7mo ago
Driving my LG oled at 120hz over HDMI. What?
izacus 7mo ago
? Both of my LG ultrawides work at 144Hz?
jdgoesmarching 7mo ago
How many 27” 5k 120hz+ high PPI are shipping right now? Reddit is particularly clowning on this for the refresh rate and completely ignoring the resolution.
- pwthornton 7mo ago
  This is a workstation-class monitor for people using these machines to make money. It's not a gamer toy monitor. People on Reddit don't get this. Apple's monitors are fantastic for those of us who use our computers to make money and need high quality. I am not playing video games on the same machine I use to make money.
FireBeyond 7mo ago
(I think) what you are thinking of was something introduced around the Catalina>Big Sur transition, when the Pro Display XDR was introduced. At the time, people were "marveling" at the magic of Apple, and wondering how they did the math to make that display work within bandwidth constraints. The simple answer was "by completely fucking with DP 1.4 DSC". I had at the time a 2019 (cheesegrater) Mac Pro. I had two Asus 27" 4K HDR 144Hz monitors, that the Mac had no problems driving under Catalina. Install Big Sur. Nope. With the monitors advertising DP 1.4, my options were SDR@95Hz, HDR@60Hz. I wasn't the only one, hundreds of people complaining, different monitors, cards, cables. I could downgrade to Catalina: HDR@144Hz sprung back to life. Hell, I could on the monitors tell them to advertise DP 1.2 support, which actually improved performance, and I think I got SDR@120Hz, HDR@95Hz (IIRC). So you don't deserve downvotes on this. Apple absolutely ignored standards and broke functionality for third party screens just to get the Pro Display XDR (which, ironically, I own, although now it's being driven by an M2 Studio, versus the space heater that was the Xeon cheesegrater).
evanjrowley 7mo ago
My MacBook M3 Air & Pro laptops can run two QHD displays with one at 240 Hz and the other at 120 Hz. What it can't do is run either above 60 Hz with HDR enabled. But for my use cases, I've never need more than 60 Hz anyway.