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Sadly, it's Mullvad VPN itself which may be banned in the UK. VPNs will require identify verification. Not a problem for companies which require credit cards fo

by dizzy9 7mo ago

Sadly, it's Mullvad VPN itself which may be banned in the UK. VPNs will require identify verification. Not a problem for companies which require credit cards for payment, but Mullvad famously allows anonymous cash payments through the post.

sunaookami 7mo ago
When will the UK citizens stand up against the regime?
- direwolf20 7mo ago
  When they don't like it. You disagree with the regime, but the vast majority of UKranians do not.
- karel-3d 7mo ago
  Honestly both Labour and Conservatives are bound to take a beating next elections. I have no idea how will Greens and/or Reform government look like, we shall see.
- aPoCoMiLogin 7mo ago
  not gonna happen, the issue is very deeply rooted already, you can't change that without force
- sph 7mo ago
  Mass surveillance and living in a police state is an ingrained part of British culture. It is no wonder to me that police procedurals are the most popular genre of TV shows in UK by quite a margin. They really are high-quality, but it does really feel like thinly-veiled propaganda (often commissioned by the BBC) portraying the State and police as the good guys in their endless quest against the baddies. Thank god there are CCTVs at every corner keeping the peace!
  - walthamstow 7mo ago
    Weird extrapolation. They're popular in lots of places - Law & Order has been running 30 years. None of this is unique to the UK. I'm old enough to remember 24, the show that whitewashed torture while people were getting renditioned by the CIA. I'd be more surprised if there was a country where this kind of thing didn't happen.
  - remus 7mo ago
    Have you lived in the UK? I have, and it doesn't feel like a police state.
    - tim333 7mo ago
      Indeed "totalitarian state controlled by a political police force" is not the thing - Brit here. Iran maybe.
      - sph 7mo ago
        I didn't use the word "totalitarian", which the UK still isn't for the time being. A surveillance state doesn't necessary have to be totalitarian (the CCTVs were in good conscience put there to protect us from the baddies). But it certainly is a precondition to become that over time.
    - sph 7mo ago
      Almost 15 years, yes. Were you born in the UK, or do you have outside perspective?
      - OJFord 7mo ago
        Not GP but I was born in the UK, and from 'CCTV on every corner' even as an exaggeration I'd question if you stepped outside London in those 15 years, not counting 'London' airports.
- gib444 7mo ago
  It’s illegal to protest in a way that has any real effect now
  - tim333 7mo ago
    I live in central London and there are protests pretty much daily about all sorts of things. The problem is more no one paying attention to them rather than their being illegal.
    - gib444 7mo ago
      "that has any real effect". All the words I wrote were to be read
      - OJFord 7mo ago
        How do you want to be able to protest (for 'real effect') that is currently illegal?
        gib444 7mo ago
        https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/11/shabana-mahmood-approves-police-request-to-ban-al-quds-march-in-london https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/11/shabana-mah... I don't support that organisation, but I support the right not to be banned from walking in protest, in a pre policing move. You can bet the static protest people will be kettled too as a defensive measure. I don't support frightening makeshift imprisonment in the street. I don't support the requirement to get permission from the police to walk in protest either Tell me: how much change you think you can effect with a few people stood static, self policing your words as not to cause offence to anyone, and then likely kettled by the police? Tell me that isn't banning protest You're basically permitted to stand silent with a totally inoffensive sign (offensive or potentially to absolutely nobody) in a very small group that attracts no attention
- tim333 7mo ago
  The age rules are broadly popular - 69% in favour, 22% against. It's a democracy - they'll probably be voted out some time. (survey https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/52693-how-have-britons-reacted-to-age-verification https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/52693-how-have-britons-rea...)
ndsipa_pomu 7mo ago
I've used Mullvad VPN in the past without any issue in the UK. Currently using NordVPN as I found Mullvad wasn't very quick for downloading Linux ISOs

by dizzy9 7mo ago

sunaookami 7mo ago

When will the UK citizens stand up against the regime?

direwolf20 7mo ago
When they don't like it. You disagree with the regime, but the vast majority of UKranians do not.
karel-3d 7mo ago
Honestly both Labour and Conservatives are bound to take a beating next elections. I have no idea how will Greens and/or Reform government look like, we shall see.
aPoCoMiLogin 7mo ago
not gonna happen, the issue is very deeply rooted already, you can't change that without force
sph 7mo ago
Mass surveillance and living in a police state is an ingrained part of British culture. It is no wonder to me that police procedurals are the most popular genre of TV shows in UK by quite a margin. They really are high-quality, but it does really feel like thinly-veiled propaganda (often commissioned by the BBC) portraying the State and police as the good guys in their endless quest against the baddies. Thank god there are CCTVs at every corner keeping the peace!
- walthamstow 7mo ago
  Weird extrapolation. They're popular in lots of places - Law & Order has been running 30 years. None of this is unique to the UK. I'm old enough to remember 24, the show that whitewashed torture while people were getting renditioned by the CIA. I'd be more surprised if there was a country where this kind of thing didn't happen.
- remus 7mo ago
  Have you lived in the UK? I have, and it doesn't feel like a police state.
  - tim333 7mo ago
    Indeed "totalitarian state controlled by a political police force" is not the thing - Brit here. Iran maybe.
    - sph 7mo ago
      I didn't use the word "totalitarian", which the UK still isn't for the time being. A surveillance state doesn't necessary have to be totalitarian (the CCTVs were in good conscience put there to protect us from the baddies). But it certainly is a precondition to become that over time.
  - sph 7mo ago
    Almost 15 years, yes. Were you born in the UK, or do you have outside perspective?
    - OJFord 7mo ago
      Not GP but I was born in the UK, and from 'CCTV on every corner' even as an exaggeration I'd question if you stepped outside London in those 15 years, not counting 'London' airports.
gib444 7mo ago
It’s illegal to protest in a way that has any real effect now
- tim333 7mo ago
  I live in central London and there are protests pretty much daily about all sorts of things. The problem is more no one paying attention to them rather than their being illegal.
  - gib444 7mo ago
    "that has any real effect". All the words I wrote were to be read
    - OJFord 7mo ago
      How do you want to be able to protest (for 'real effect') that is currently illegal?
      - gib444 7mo ago
        https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/11/shabana-mahmood-approves-police-request-to-ban-al-quds-march-in-london https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/11/shabana-mah... I don't support that organisation, but I support the right not to be banned from walking in protest, in a pre policing move. You can bet the static protest people will be kettled too as a defensive measure. I don't support frightening makeshift imprisonment in the street. I don't support the requirement to get permission from the police to walk in protest either Tell me: how much change you think you can effect with a few people stood static, self policing your words as not to cause offence to anyone, and then likely kettled by the police? Tell me that isn't banning protest You're basically permitted to stand silent with a totally inoffensive sign (offensive or potentially to absolutely nobody) in a very small group that attracts no attention
tim333 7mo ago
The age rules are broadly popular - 69% in favour, 22% against. It's a democracy - they'll probably be voted out some time. (survey https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/52693-how-have-britons-reacted-to-age-verification https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/52693-how-have-britons-rea...)

ndsipa_pomu 7mo ago

I've used Mullvad VPN in the past without any issue in the UK. Currently using NordVPN as I found Mullvad wasn't very quick for downloading Linux ISOs