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Not judging anyone’s kinks but when there are so many major issues to solve this is what is being focused on? Maybe that’s the point

kotaKat 7mo ago
This is just the tip of the slippery slope of starting to ban ‘nonconforming’ adult content and a later pivot to starting to attempt to ban LGBTQ+ pornography under similar bullshit morality clauses.
- Xmd5a 7mo ago
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  - kotaKat 7mo ago
    No, as a furry, I believe it’s fursecution.
    - RGamma 7mo ago
      M'lady
    - jermaustin1 7mo ago
      Not purrsecution?
      - kotaKat 7mo ago
        This depends on the courts and purrisdictions, to be honest. Some days I wonder if it’s one big old kangaroo court the way things are going in this dog-eat-dog world.
mrexcess 7mo ago
There seem to be two sides to politics: 1) Deciding the really important issues. This occurs with minimal public involvement, and that always to the overt reticence of the ruling class. "Expert" voices are projected downward to the masses, pronouncing authoritatively both about objective truth and characterizing the subjective preferences of the masses. 2) What are often called "wedge issues", or more recently "culture war" issues. These issues are often sensational by nature, and further sensationalized by the media to evidently encourage public participation in the discourse. Expert voices continue to guide the conversation along an established Overton window, but without making the public feel unqualified to give their opinion, just the opposite. Is this what democracy is supposed to resemble? The hoi polloi fighting amongst themselves over what genres of pornography are acceptable, while the leaders run off to back rooms to make global-reach decisions about war, macroeconomics, and the shape of our society to come? I just can't imagine a functional democracy where the main discussion or topic of focus for any serious person, at this time, is incest porn.
- delfinom 7mo ago
  >while the leaders run off to back rooms to make global-reach decisions about war, macroeconomics, and the shape of our society to come? Don't forget abusing children
  - ModernMech 7mo ago
    Actually I think that's the crux of it. After repeatedly delaying, dismissing, and dodging they were forced to arrest one of their own for his sex crimes. Now they are making more sex crimes to arrest common people for, because it cannot be the case that only the rich elites are arrested for their sex crimes. Normal people aren't involved in child sex rings at remote islands, so step porn it is.
- wavemode 7mo ago
  Political debate suffers from Sayre's law: "In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake." Most people simply aren't knowledgeable enough to have an informed opinion on truly important issues. This is, by the way, a fundamental limitation of democracies, and why we tend to establish republics instead. It's not realistic to expect people to become informed about geopolitics, and economics, and education, and ciminal justice, and 100 other things, before casting a vote. So rather than vote on these things directly, we elect people whose job it is to know about these things and/or consult with experts who do.
  - ModernMech 7mo ago
    War with Iran? Who can really say if that's right or wrong, we don't have all the info, I'm sure they're doing what's best for the nation. A MtF person in a restroom? We cannot abide this, we must pass laws banning this throughout the nation, to end this travesty and the harm it is causing everyone.
    - tstrimple 7mo ago
      Just once I want the proponents of anti-trans measures to say where trans men should go to the bathroom. You know they would freak the fuck out if they saw a bearded muscular dude washing his hands next to their daughter.
nephihaha 7mo ago
Incest is not cool for a variety of reasons, not just genetic.
- DaedalusII 7mo ago
  there is no biological incest between step relatives this lack of biological relation is what facilitates the desire in the first place, and then comes the taboo
  - nephihaha 7mo ago
    I am not closely related to my god parents and god children, but it would be wrong for me to get involved with either. Incest isn't just "biological" as you put it, it is a matter of your relation to other people.
- paganel 7mo ago
  Is step-siblings sex incest? It may be disgraceful but I personally don’t see it as such, i.e. not as incest.
  - nephihaha 7mo ago
    Yes, it is incest due to affinity and familial relationships not just genes.
    - paganel 7mo ago
      > not just genes. For me it would be just genes. Was it incest when the people who grew up in the kibbutz together ended up marrying each other? (and not blood-related, to be sure). Because they had affinity and the kibbutz community was a lot more family-like than many of today's modern families.
      - nephihaha 7mo ago
        Probably depends on the size but kibbutzim appear to function like villages used to. (But they have changed their position on childrearing a lot.) Today's modern families and villages are pretty messed up, and promoting the idea that "close" people (as we could call them) should become sexually involved creates additional problems.
amiga386 7mo ago
This is the Lords to coming up with stuff to justify the OSA and further tighten the screws on the internet. It's open season. What it will result in is all porn being watched via VPN, and us turning into Russia/China, where the State bans any source of information outwith its absolute control. Amendment 297: "Pornographic images of sex between relatives" Amendment 298: "Pornographic content: online harmful content" Amendment 299: "Amendment of possession of extreme pornographic images provision to cover incest" Amendment 300: "Pornographic content: duty to verify age" https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/65033/documents/7901 https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/65033/documents/790... Who moved these amendments? BARONESS LEVITT: principal legal advisor to the director of public prosecutions from 2009 to 2014, working under Keir Starmer BARONESS BERTIN: commissioned by the Government to lead an independent review into the regulation of online pornography BARONESS KIDRON: an advocate for children's rights in the digital world BARONESS BENJAMIN: WTF it's Floella Benjamin from my childhood. So this is what she's doing nowadays?
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kotaKat 7mo ago

This is just the tip of the slippery slope of starting to ban ‘nonconforming’ adult content and a later pivot to starting to attempt to ban LGBTQ+ pornography under similar bullshit morality clauses.

Xmd5a 7mo ago
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- kotaKat 7mo ago
  No, as a furry, I believe it’s fursecution.
  - RGamma 7mo ago
    M'lady
  - jermaustin1 7mo ago
    Not purrsecution?
    - kotaKat 7mo ago
      This depends on the courts and purrisdictions, to be honest. Some days I wonder if it’s one big old kangaroo court the way things are going in this dog-eat-dog world.

mrexcess 7mo ago

There seem to be two sides to politics: 1) Deciding the really important issues. This occurs with minimal public involvement, and that always to the overt reticence of the ruling class. "Expert" voices are projected downward to the masses, pronouncing authoritatively both about objective truth and characterizing the subjective preferences of the masses. 2) What are often called "wedge issues", or more recently "culture war" issues. These issues are often sensational by nature, and further sensationalized by the media to evidently encourage public participation in the discourse. Expert voices continue to guide the conversation along an established Overton window, but without making the public feel unqualified to give their opinion, just the opposite. Is this what democracy is supposed to resemble? The hoi polloi fighting amongst themselves over what genres of pornography are acceptable, while the leaders run off to back rooms to make global-reach decisions about war, macroeconomics, and the shape of our society to come? I just can't imagine a functional democracy where the main discussion or topic of focus for any serious person, at this time, is incest porn.

delfinom 7mo ago
>while the leaders run off to back rooms to make global-reach decisions about war, macroeconomics, and the shape of our society to come? Don't forget abusing children
- ModernMech 7mo ago
  Actually I think that's the crux of it. After repeatedly delaying, dismissing, and dodging they were forced to arrest one of their own for his sex crimes. Now they are making more sex crimes to arrest common people for, because it cannot be the case that only the rich elites are arrested for their sex crimes. Normal people aren't involved in child sex rings at remote islands, so step porn it is.
wavemode 7mo ago
Political debate suffers from Sayre's law: "In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake." Most people simply aren't knowledgeable enough to have an informed opinion on truly important issues. This is, by the way, a fundamental limitation of democracies, and why we tend to establish republics instead. It's not realistic to expect people to become informed about geopolitics, and economics, and education, and ciminal justice, and 100 other things, before casting a vote. So rather than vote on these things directly, we elect people whose job it is to know about these things and/or consult with experts who do.
- ModernMech 7mo ago
  War with Iran? Who can really say if that's right or wrong, we don't have all the info, I'm sure they're doing what's best for the nation. A MtF person in a restroom? We cannot abide this, we must pass laws banning this throughout the nation, to end this travesty and the harm it is causing everyone.
  - tstrimple 7mo ago
    Just once I want the proponents of anti-trans measures to say where trans men should go to the bathroom. You know they would freak the fuck out if they saw a bearded muscular dude washing his hands next to their daughter.

nephihaha 7mo ago

Incest is not cool for a variety of reasons, not just genetic.

DaedalusII 7mo ago
there is no biological incest between step relatives this lack of biological relation is what facilitates the desire in the first place, and then comes the taboo
- nephihaha 7mo ago
  I am not closely related to my god parents and god children, but it would be wrong for me to get involved with either. Incest isn't just "biological" as you put it, it is a matter of your relation to other people.
paganel 7mo ago
Is step-siblings sex incest? It may be disgraceful but I personally don’t see it as such, i.e. not as incest.
- nephihaha 7mo ago
  Yes, it is incest due to affinity and familial relationships not just genes.
  - paganel 7mo ago
    > not just genes. For me it would be just genes. Was it incest when the people who grew up in the kibbutz together ended up marrying each other? (and not blood-related, to be sure). Because they had affinity and the kibbutz community was a lot more family-like than many of today's modern families.
    - nephihaha 7mo ago
      Probably depends on the size but kibbutzim appear to function like villages used to. (But they have changed their position on childrearing a lot.) Today's modern families and villages are pretty messed up, and promoting the idea that "close" people (as we could call them) should become sexually involved creates additional problems.

amiga386 7mo ago

This is the Lords to coming up with stuff to justify the OSA and further tighten the screws on the internet. It's open season. What it will result in is all porn being watched via VPN, and us turning into Russia/China, where the State bans any source of information outwith its absolute control. Amendment 297: "Pornographic images of sex between relatives" Amendment 298: "Pornographic content: online harmful content" Amendment 299: "Amendment of possession of extreme pornographic images provision to cover incest" Amendment 300: "Pornographic content: duty to verify age" https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/65033/documents/7901 https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/65033/documents/790... Who moved these amendments? BARONESS LEVITT: principal legal advisor to the director of public prosecutions from 2009 to 2014, working under Keir Starmer BARONESS BERTIN: commissioned by the Government to lead an independent review into the regulation of online pornography BARONESS KIDRON: an advocate for children's rights in the digital world BARONESS BENJAMIN: WTF it's Floella Benjamin from my childhood. So this is what she's doing nowadays?

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