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TBH What I wanted from the world is AOSP distribution. Built similarly to GrapheneOS in terms of distribution, ease of install. But I just don't feel I need all

TBH What I wanted from the world is AOSP distribution. Built similarly to GrapheneOS in terms of distribution, ease of install. But I just don't feel I need all these privacy enhancements and stuff, I'm perfectly fine with ordinary system compiled from Google sources with proper update schedule. Also I don't want to see anything installed out of the box, except maybe single app to install AOSP apps, F-Droid, Play Store, just APK from the given URL. So basically almost empty mobile OS which user fully customizes, no predefined choices, no custom patches.

riedel 7mo ago
So what is wrong with lineage in this case?
- vbezhenar 7mo ago
  I know very little about lineageos. Their website contains very few docs, so I don't really understand what's this project is about. They don't mention Pixel 10, so I guess it's not supported. GrapheneOS website in comparison contains a lot of things to read, so after a hour of thorough reading I had good impression what GrapheneOS is.
  - omnimus 7mo ago
    Are the websites really that different? (i use iphone) I checked both homepages and impression I got is that Lineage is android that focuses on long term support (the name points that out) and Graphene is not android (ok?) and it's focused on security. Your Pixel 10 is not in Lineage devices so i would also assume it's not supported. (maybe it's too new?)
    - kennywinker 7mo ago
      Yes, as I understand it lineageos is focused on supporting phones AFTER the mamufacturer stops supporting them - a pixel 10 is still supported afaik.
  - alfiedotwtf 7mo ago
    LineageOS was one of the OG de-googled Android ROMs, renamed a few years after Android Jellybean IIRC. This new glass UI and the Face ID kind of not working anymore since upgrading my iPhone, I think I’ll be going back to Android
    - timschumi 7mo ago
      > LineageOS was one of the OG de-googled Android ROMs, renamed a few years after Android Jellybean IIRC. Existing since 2009 as CyanogenMod and since 2016 as LineageOS, that would have been around the time where Android 7 (Nougat) was current. PS: Not that we are in any way degoogled, other than what we are forced to by the license.
      - alfiedotwtf 7mo ago
        Thanks Tim… my memory is fuzzy - that was a lot of phones ago. … and thank you for your continued effort! I have very big love for CyanogenMod/LineageOS, and that’s coming from a heavy pre-XDA user (I’ve had them all - PalmOS, Zaraus, XDA o2, Maemo, FirefoxOS, Ubuntu phone user).
throawayonthe 7mo ago
tbh it sounds like you do want grapheneos :p it's very minimal ootb and has a better update schedule than 95% of oems (alas) you can install google play store & services from the app store, and pretty much everything will just work as you might imagine
- microtonal 7mo ago
  it's very minimal ootb and has a better update schedule than 95% of oems (alas) Any OEM right? Google is the fastest OEM with Pixel and GrapheneOS often rolls out patches earlier than Google (not bound by a monthly schedule + they do embargoed patches when you use the right branch).
ryncewynd 7mo ago
Same here. I've been trying to find a "plain Android" phone but everything seems heavily customised UI by the manufacturers now. I just found out today I can't call anymore due to 3G ending in my city I'm keen for a Motorola Graphene and then just install Google services anyway. For me the value is being freed from manufacturers UI and software
ForHackernews 7mo ago
You could try https://iode.tech/iodeos/ https://iode.tech/iodeos/ or https://e.foundation/e-os/ https://e.foundation/e-os/ but neither is as minimalist as you'd like.

riedel 7mo ago

So what is wrong with lineage in this case?

vbezhenar 7mo ago
I know very little about lineageos. Their website contains very few docs, so I don't really understand what's this project is about. They don't mention Pixel 10, so I guess it's not supported. GrapheneOS website in comparison contains a lot of things to read, so after a hour of thorough reading I had good impression what GrapheneOS is.
- omnimus 7mo ago
  Are the websites really that different? (i use iphone) I checked both homepages and impression I got is that Lineage is android that focuses on long term support (the name points that out) and Graphene is not android (ok?) and it's focused on security. Your Pixel 10 is not in Lineage devices so i would also assume it's not supported. (maybe it's too new?)
  - kennywinker 7mo ago
    Yes, as I understand it lineageos is focused on supporting phones AFTER the mamufacturer stops supporting them - a pixel 10 is still supported afaik.
- alfiedotwtf 7mo ago
  LineageOS was one of the OG de-googled Android ROMs, renamed a few years after Android Jellybean IIRC. This new glass UI and the Face ID kind of not working anymore since upgrading my iPhone, I think I’ll be going back to Android
  - timschumi 7mo ago
    > LineageOS was one of the OG de-googled Android ROMs, renamed a few years after Android Jellybean IIRC. Existing since 2009 as CyanogenMod and since 2016 as LineageOS, that would have been around the time where Android 7 (Nougat) was current. PS: Not that we are in any way degoogled, other than what we are forced to by the license.
    - alfiedotwtf 7mo ago
      Thanks Tim… my memory is fuzzy - that was a lot of phones ago. … and thank you for your continued effort! I have very big love for CyanogenMod/LineageOS, and that’s coming from a heavy pre-XDA user (I’ve had them all - PalmOS, Zaraus, XDA o2, Maemo, FirefoxOS, Ubuntu phone user).

throawayonthe 7mo ago

tbh it sounds like you do want grapheneos :p it's very minimal ootb and has a better update schedule than 95% of oems (alas) you can install google play store & services from the app store, and pretty much everything will just work as you might imagine

microtonal 7mo ago
it's very minimal ootb and has a better update schedule than 95% of oems (alas) Any OEM right? Google is the fastest OEM with Pixel and GrapheneOS often rolls out patches earlier than Google (not bound by a monthly schedule + they do embargoed patches when you use the right branch).

ryncewynd 7mo ago

Same here. I've been trying to find a "plain Android" phone but everything seems heavily customised UI by the manufacturers now. I just found out today I can't call anymore due to 3G ending in my city I'm keen for a Motorola Graphene and then just install Google services anyway. For me the value is being freed from manufacturers UI and software

ForHackernews 7mo ago

You could try https://iode.tech/iodeos/ https://iode.tech/iodeos/ or https://e.foundation/e-os/ https://e.foundation/e-os/ but neither is as minimalist as you'd like.