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It would be great to see Europe adopt it as well. Changing clocks twice a year feels outdated and more disruptive than beneficial.

watwut 7mo ago
Absolutely not. The time that would stay is the bad one. With switch, we get reasonable half a years. Without it, it would be whole unreasonable year.
- recursive 7mo ago
  The biggest unreasonability is switching at all. I admit other points of view, but switching back and forth is a compromise that seems far worse than just sticking with one. Either one.
  - jerlam 7mo ago
    We seem to be in the worst situation now where not only does the EU change their time twice a year, they change it on a different schedule than US/Canada. For a few weeks during the year, half of your meetings start at a different time. Everyone is confused.
    - dzhiurgis 7mo ago
      Now add southern hemisphere
- asmosoinio 7mo ago
  Why? Can't people adjust their schedules as needed? Schools don't have to always start at the same time? And many jobs also not? It's not like 9-17 work hours are set on stone?
  - padjo 7mo ago
    And coordinating that change would be easier you think?
    - asmosoinio 7mo ago
      Coordinating that change for the RELEVANT parties, yes. IMHO that's a tiny part of a society. Instead of everyone EVERYONE having to adjust clocks and their natural schedules. I think (and some studies agree with me) the stress and negative effects of that switching twice a year is much more on aggregate. I don't personally see any benefit from daylight savings. But I also live at around 60+ degrees North: at peak summertime there is 19 hours of full daylight (barely gets dark the other hours), wintertime less about 5. Daylight saving does not really make a dent.
asmosoinio 7mo ago
It was proposed officially in 2018, but unfortunately the decision was never finalized: https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/seasonal-time-changes/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/seasonal-time-ch...
alexhans 7mo ago
I don't like switching to daylight saving and back but I'd rather have that that permanently moving to +1. Then you have extreme examples which are already shifted like Spain (for historical reasons around aligning with Germany) and I don't find that alignment useful economically, in city life practice and more. If had to make an executive choice with no further analysis at this moment I'd put them all in their respective original times and move Spain and any outlier to their proper timezone (a vertical map alignment of sorts)

watwut 7mo ago

Absolutely not. The time that would stay is the bad one. With switch, we get reasonable half a years. Without it, it would be whole unreasonable year.

recursive 7mo ago
The biggest unreasonability is switching at all. I admit other points of view, but switching back and forth is a compromise that seems far worse than just sticking with one. Either one.
- jerlam 7mo ago
  We seem to be in the worst situation now where not only does the EU change their time twice a year, they change it on a different schedule than US/Canada. For a few weeks during the year, half of your meetings start at a different time. Everyone is confused.
  - dzhiurgis 7mo ago
    Now add southern hemisphere
asmosoinio 7mo ago
Why? Can't people adjust their schedules as needed? Schools don't have to always start at the same time? And many jobs also not? It's not like 9-17 work hours are set on stone?
- padjo 7mo ago
  And coordinating that change would be easier you think?
  - asmosoinio 7mo ago
    Coordinating that change for the RELEVANT parties, yes. IMHO that's a tiny part of a society. Instead of everyone EVERYONE having to adjust clocks and their natural schedules. I think (and some studies agree with me) the stress and negative effects of that switching twice a year is much more on aggregate. I don't personally see any benefit from daylight savings. But I also live at around 60+ degrees North: at peak summertime there is 19 hours of full daylight (barely gets dark the other hours), wintertime less about 5. Daylight saving does not really make a dent.

asmosoinio 7mo ago

It was proposed officially in 2018, but unfortunately the decision was never finalized: https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/seasonal-time-changes/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/seasonal-time-ch...

alexhans 7mo ago

I don't like switching to daylight saving and back but I'd rather have that that permanently moving to +1. Then you have extreme examples which are already shifted like Spain (for historical reasons around aligning with Germany) and I don't find that alignment useful economically, in city life practice and more. If had to make an executive choice with no further analysis at this moment I'd put them all in their respective original times and move Spain and any outlier to their proper timezone (a vertical map alignment of sorts)