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>Which is really silly, because if someone needs to do actual work they are not going to do it on an iPad no matter how capable it is. The form factor simply do
by coldtea 8mo ago
>Which is really silly, because if someone needs to do actual work they are not going to do it on an iPad no matter how capable it is. The form factor simply does not work for getting work done.*
Nonsens. The iPad is basically a 11 to 13 (Pro) monitor+computer with an amazing touch screen. Adding the official keyboard folio, or any bluetooth keyboard/mourse is trivial, and it makes for an excellent on-the-go machine. Not different to the 12-inch MacBook (circa 2015) and the older fan favorite 12-inch PowerBook G4 (circa 2003), and I know several devs who swore by them. Linus used and loved one of the latter (with PPC Linux on in his case).
The only issue is the lack of OS level support for some stuff, not the form factor.
Admins, devs working mostly on the Cloud, photographers, and writers already use it for "getting work done", I've seen execs too.
- eldaisfish 8mo agothe form factor is a problem. Have you ACTUALLY tried using an ipad as a laptop for more than a few minutes? It is top-heavy and falls over all the time. Even if you solve that problem, you now have multiple devices that you must keep charged and with you at all time. At that point, an actual laptop is simpler.
- Archit3ch 8mo agoI've seen people use their (non-Apple) tablet in the kitchen for recipes. Can't imagine taking my laptop to the kitchen.
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- makeitdouble 8mo agoThat form factor exists on the windows side for about a decade now, so yes people do actually use it day to day for their work. It's easy to forget that many laptops are used 99% plugged to a hub and an external monitor. I have a keyboard and mouse I like a lot, and having a tablet floating on an arm next to my other screen instead of half open clam with a useless keyboard pointing at me is incredibly freeing. Even on the go, bringing a bluetooth (trackpoint II）keyboard is just better overall IMHO. It's up to people's taste, but tablet form factors are not some unsolved mistery. Commercial success would of course be another discussion.
- lossyalgo 8mo agoI have a kickstand case with a magnetic Bluetooth keyboard and integrated 3rd party pen holder and it works just like a laptop but supports the pen, plus I can leave the keyboard behind and prop it on my treadmill to watch movies, etc. It's actually a lot more convenient than a laptop in a lot of circumstances.
- cosmic_cheese 8mo agoTablets will need to become a great deal lighter than they currently are before the awkwardness you describe will dissipate. Maybe after some kind of breakthrough in battery tech that allows for a much lighter and thinner battery? Until then, I would agree that the old 12" MacBook still has a big leg up over an iPad + keyboard due to its clamshell form factor. It's so much less fussy for any use case where a keyboard matters.
- coldtea 8mo ago>Have you ACTUALLY tried using an ipad as a laptop for more than a few minutes? It is top-heavy and falls over all the time. Not even sure what you mean. Get a keyboard stand or a regular stand + keyboard. Never "falls over" for me. Do you try to balance it on its side or something?
- tortilla 8mo agoThis is the form factor I want in an iPad (full computer): https://www.sotsu.com/products/flipaction-elite-16?variant=46314945118434 https://www.sotsu.com/products/flipaction-elite-16?variant=4... Just let me use my own keyboard/mouse when I want to use it like a computer. Better ergonomics too as the iPad would be at a good height.
- CoolGuySteve 8mo agoMy monitor has a powered USB-C port and USB hub built into it. It's one cable to dock a laptop, it's pretty cool. If I could plug my iPad into that cable to use it as a Mac I would do that all the time and buy a more powerful iPad. It would be an iPad for idle browsing and a Mac for the times I need a real computer.
- StilesCrisis 8mo agoYou almost can. With Stage Manager enabled, an iPad plugged into a Studio Display is shockingly Mac-like. You get a menubar, windows that resize, a mouse pointer, etc. I could easily convince someone that they were on a Mac if I hid the iPad. I don't like Stage Manager at all in undocked mode, though. I wish it would just turn on when the iPad was docked, and turn off otherwise.
- raw_anon_1111 8mo agoI don’t see any reason you couldn’t. iOS supports all of the standard USB C protocols.
- vladvasiliu 8mo agoPresumably because you can't use the "advanced" apps which you can use on an actual mac?
- CoolGuySteve 8mo agoBecause it's not a Mac even though the chipset is the same, there's no XCode and whatnot.
- TowerTall 8mo agoAs a Windows user who had several MS Surface tablets I fully agree that the form factor would make it a very suitable on-the-go device.