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Model collapse happens when AI output feeds back into AI training data. That's a real problem for models. But self-sustaining codebases aren't using AI to veri

Model collapse happens when AI output feeds back into AI training data. That's a real problem for models. But self-sustaining codebases aren't using AI to verify AI. The verification layer is deterministic: dependency graphs, targeted test suites, blast radius computation. These are structural checks, not generative ones. The graph doesn't hallucinate. Tests either pass or they don't The claw spam problem is what happens when you have no verification at all.

verdverm 8mo ago
Model collapse happens outside of the training loop as well, at the agentic level, when left to their own devices for too long.
- rs545837 8mo ago
  The failure mode you're describing is agents verifying themselves. The alternative is structural verification that exists outside the agent's reasoning loop entirely.
  - verdverm 8mo ago
    The failure mode I'm talking about has them degrading to the point the output gibberish