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>Android users pay with their personal information and by looking at ads. Are you suggesting ads are built into the Android software? I was considering gettin

>Android users pay with their personal information and by looking at ads. Are you suggesting ads are built into the Android software? I was considering getting a Nexus 7 but this would totally change my mind.

Samuel_Michon 14y ago
Very few devices run stock Android, the Nexus series being the exception. I was referring to one of the most popular Android tablets, Amazon's Kindle Fire. However, since Android comes with Flash, you're likely to see more ads than on other platforms, even if you use a Nexus device.
- estel 14y ago
  Android has not come with flash since Jelly Bean: Adobe long since stopped supporting it and it's absolutely not available on the Nexus 7 unless you sideload some legacy APK.
  - Samuel_Michon 14y ago
    Jelly Bean is the latest version of Android. Only 1.8% of Android devices run Jelly Bean. Most new Android devices being sold today do not run Jelly Bean and will very likely come with Flash. http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html Adobe stopped supporting Flash for Android 2 months a go, hardly an eternity. http://www.pcworld.com/article/260901/android_flash_player_rip_how_to_get_it_now_that_its_gone.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/260901/android_flash_player_r...
    - estel 14y ago
      That's absolutely true, but you were quite explicit about Nexus devices also being included. Edit: Adobe made their original statement that they were moving away from Flash on mobile devices a year ago: http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/9/2549196/adobe-flash-android-blackberry http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/9/2549196/adobe-flash-androi...
      - Samuel_Michon 14y ago
        The Nexus One, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus all come with Flash. And yes, Adobe made their intentions known a year a go, but that's not quite the same as ending support. Especially since many new Android devices will still have Flash.
        estel 14y ago
        The Galaxy Nexus does not (and, to my knowledge, never has) come with Flash.
        Samuel_Michon 14y ago
        Some Galaxy Nexus phones run Jelly Bean now, but most came with Ice Cream Sandwich (which had Flash). http://www.slashgear.com/adobe-no-jelly-bean-flash-flash-player-pulled-altogether-august-15-29236404/ http://www.slashgear.com/adobe-no-jelly-bean-flash-flash-pla...
        estel 14y ago
        Yes, but the Galaxy Nexus both preceded a working version of Flash for ICS and never thereafter shipped with it anyway (it had to be manually installed from the Store).
        chaz 14y ago
        Google Nexus devices didn't ship with Flash preinstalled on the device.
- trotsky 14y ago
  weird, we have a kindle fire and it doesn't show us any special ads. and i've never noticed flash ads being especially present on the galaxy tab. it sounds to me like you're trying to talk with authority about things you haven't used and don't really have much perspective on.
  - Samuel_Michon 14y ago
    One can pay $15 to not have to see ads, but according to Amazon, most users don't. http://bgr.com/2012/09/10/kindle-fire-hd-ad-removal/ http://bgr.com/2012/09/10/kindle-fire-hd-ad-removal/ You've never noticed Flash ads on a Galaxy Tab? Unless you turned off Flash, use a pop up blocker, or if you use a text browser like Lynx, I seriously doubt that: they're pretty hard to miss.
    - trotsky 14y ago
      Nope, you've forgotten about the original kindle fire, you know the one thats been on sale for a year and not a month or two. no ad subsidy program there. look, you obviously don't use an android tablet so please stop telling people who do use them what their experience is like. we understand that you find your kool-aid delicious, let's move on.
      - brudgers 14y ago
        The Silk browser used on the Fire processes browsed pages on Amazon's servers. In a perfect world, Amazon would store your browsing activity and manipulate the content it passed along to you for it's own profit. But fortunately, they have placed a Santa clause in the user agreement which prohibits them from doing so.
- kcbanner 14y ago
  I've never seen ads in the Android OS. I've used versions 1.x up to 4.x.
lostsock 14y ago
If he is suggesting that he is flat out wrong. There are quite a few free apps that use ads as a way of supporting themselves but the OS has no ads itself. And you can almost always purchase premium versions of the apps that remove the ads as well. Not to mention with Android there is the possibility of using something like AdAway
blub 14y ago
Using Google products with the idea that you can avoid giving out personal information to them is not wise. I was also considering the Nexus, but why bother fighting against the product's design. Still, AFAIK, you won't see actual ads in the OS.
lnanek2 14y ago
Yep, Ads in Google search, ads in Google Maps. Honestly, I consider Google Play to be full of ads now as well since I only ever open it for apps and it shows a bunch of music, movies, and hardware I don't want instead until I drill down/search. Someone else in the thread is complaining you can avoid these things if you try, install alternatives, but it is still true Google makes money after the sale, and that they pay Mozilla a ton of money to be default search on that platform, so it is very valuable to them.
- Goronmon 14y ago
  >Yep, Ads in Google search, ads in Google Maps. Ads in apps is a lot different than ads built into the OS. What are your examples of ads built into Android itself?
  - Samuel_Michon 14y ago
    "Ads in apps is a lot different than ads built into the OS." If those apps come pre-installed, what's the difference?

Samuel_Michon 14y ago

Very few devices run stock Android, the Nexus series being the exception. I was referring to one of the most popular Android tablets, Amazon's Kindle Fire. However, since Android comes with Flash, you're likely to see more ads than on other platforms, even if you use a Nexus device.

estel 14y ago
Android has not come with flash since Jelly Bean: Adobe long since stopped supporting it and it's absolutely not available on the Nexus 7 unless you sideload some legacy APK.
- Samuel_Michon 14y ago
  Jelly Bean is the latest version of Android. Only 1.8% of Android devices run Jelly Bean. Most new Android devices being sold today do not run Jelly Bean and will very likely come with Flash. http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html Adobe stopped supporting Flash for Android 2 months a go, hardly an eternity. http://www.pcworld.com/article/260901/android_flash_player_rip_how_to_get_it_now_that_its_gone.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/260901/android_flash_player_r...
  - estel 14y ago
    That's absolutely true, but you were quite explicit about Nexus devices also being included. Edit: Adobe made their original statement that they were moving away from Flash on mobile devices a year ago: http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/9/2549196/adobe-flash-android-blackberry http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/9/2549196/adobe-flash-androi...
    - Samuel_Michon 14y ago
      The Nexus One, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus all come with Flash. And yes, Adobe made their intentions known a year a go, but that's not quite the same as ending support. Especially since many new Android devices will still have Flash.
      - estel 14y ago
        The Galaxy Nexus does not (and, to my knowledge, never has) come with Flash.
        Samuel_Michon 14y ago
        Some Galaxy Nexus phones run Jelly Bean now, but most came with Ice Cream Sandwich (which had Flash). http://www.slashgear.com/adobe-no-jelly-bean-flash-flash-player-pulled-altogether-august-15-29236404/ http://www.slashgear.com/adobe-no-jelly-bean-flash-flash-pla...
        estel 14y ago
        Yes, but the Galaxy Nexus both preceded a working version of Flash for ICS and never thereafter shipped with it anyway (it had to be manually installed from the Store).
        chaz 14y ago
        Google Nexus devices didn't ship with Flash preinstalled on the device.
trotsky 14y ago
weird, we have a kindle fire and it doesn't show us any special ads. and i've never noticed flash ads being especially present on the galaxy tab. it sounds to me like you're trying to talk with authority about things you haven't used and don't really have much perspective on.
- Samuel_Michon 14y ago
  One can pay $15 to not have to see ads, but according to Amazon, most users don't. http://bgr.com/2012/09/10/kindle-fire-hd-ad-removal/ http://bgr.com/2012/09/10/kindle-fire-hd-ad-removal/ You've never noticed Flash ads on a Galaxy Tab? Unless you turned off Flash, use a pop up blocker, or if you use a text browser like Lynx, I seriously doubt that: they're pretty hard to miss.
  - trotsky 14y ago
    Nope, you've forgotten about the original kindle fire, you know the one thats been on sale for a year and not a month or two. no ad subsidy program there. look, you obviously don't use an android tablet so please stop telling people who do use them what their experience is like. we understand that you find your kool-aid delicious, let's move on.
    - brudgers 14y ago
      The Silk browser used on the Fire processes browsed pages on Amazon's servers. In a perfect world, Amazon would store your browsing activity and manipulate the content it passed along to you for it's own profit. But fortunately, they have placed a Santa clause in the user agreement which prohibits them from doing so.
kcbanner 14y ago
I've never seen ads in the Android OS. I've used versions 1.x up to 4.x.

lostsock 14y ago

If he is suggesting that he is flat out wrong. There are quite a few free apps that use ads as a way of supporting themselves but the OS has no ads itself. And you can almost always purchase premium versions of the apps that remove the ads as well. Not to mention with Android there is the possibility of using something like AdAway

blub 14y ago

Using Google products with the idea that you can avoid giving out personal information to them is not wise. I was also considering the Nexus, but why bother fighting against the product's design. Still, AFAIK, you won't see actual ads in the OS.

lnanek2 14y ago

Yep, Ads in Google search, ads in Google Maps. Honestly, I consider Google Play to be full of ads now as well since I only ever open it for apps and it shows a bunch of music, movies, and hardware I don't want instead until I drill down/search. Someone else in the thread is complaining you can avoid these things if you try, install alternatives, but it is still true Google makes money after the sale, and that they pay Mozilla a ton of money to be default search on that platform, so it is very valuable to them.

Goronmon 14y ago
>Yep, Ads in Google search, ads in Google Maps. Ads in apps is a lot different than ads built into the OS. What are your examples of ads built into Android itself?
- Samuel_Michon 14y ago
  "Ads in apps is a lot different than ads built into the OS." If those apps come pre-installed, what's the difference?