3 ms·

I think every verbal person has the ability to “speak” phrases in their mind; people without an internal monologue (as is, I suppose, the case for me) just don’

by volemo 7mo ago

I think every verbal person has the ability to “speak” phrases in their mind; people without an internal monologue (as is, I suppose, the case for me) just don’t need / tend to do that with every thought they have.

LoganDark 7mo ago
When I was younger, I could only do it by making the movements with my tongue and sort of "whispering breathlessly"
- ksaj 7mo ago
  What do you mean by this? Don't get me wrong... it sounds like you are describing something related, but different enough to need more description.
  - LoganDark 7mo ago
    As in, I couldn't speak in my mind without making the bodily movements of speaking... Now I can, and do all the time.
idiotsecant 7mo ago
While I think this is true, if you're conciously forming phrases they are by definition not intrusive, the subject of the discussion.
- volemo 7mo ago
  Yes, indeed. My argument is the intrusive thoughts wouldn’t be internally verbalised, thus such a device, in my opinion, wouldn’t be able to spell them out.
  - ksaj 7mo ago
    With me, they'd have 10 different things to parse. Some would be spot on. Some would be way the heck out in left field. And occasionally, some are totally obtrusive and definitely not meant to be spoken. Thoughts are intrusive when they get in the way of what you are trying to get out of a thought process.
Lerc 7mo ago
This is my experience too. I can rehearse words to say or simulate the conversation of others in my head. I just don't use words when I'm not doing wordy things myself. I didn't know the Comic strip Partially Clips was a pun until I told someone about the strip, then as soon as the words came out of my mouth realised the joke. On the other hand I can play back non verbal sounds I have heard in my head, which I think not everyone can do either. Not to the degree of my daughter though, I mentioned how I had noticed an ad was using a singer (not super famous but we knew who they were) and when I told her about it some days later her eyes went blank as she listened to it again and then she said, "Oh yes, it's Nataly" Brains are weird.
- volemo 7mo ago
  > This is my experience too. I can rehearse words to say or simulate the conversation of others in my head. I just don't use words when I'm not doing wordy things myself. Yep, same here. Most curiously though, I think I had an internal monologue in my childhood and teenage years, but sometime around 16–18 y.o. it went away. Sadly, I don’t remember the exact moment, as I’ve only learned about this topic around 20. > the Comic strip Partially Clips was a pun Whoah, took me a while too, even though you’ve explicitly told it’s there. xD > I can play back non verbal sounds I have heard in my head, which I think not everyone can do Nope, I can’t. (:
  - ksaj 7mo ago
    I'm the opposite of you two. My brain won't stfu. I took Ritalin since grade 3 until I was in my 40's. That never got rid of it, but it did make it easier to focus in spite of all the chatter and other mental distractions. Now I'm old and lazy, and that seems to have a similar effect. The racing thoughts are still there, but they don't get in my way now that I have far fewer responsibilities to take care of.

by volemo 7mo ago

LoganDark 7mo ago

When I was younger, I could only do it by making the movements with my tongue and sort of "whispering breathlessly"

ksaj 7mo ago
What do you mean by this? Don't get me wrong... it sounds like you are describing something related, but different enough to need more description.
- LoganDark 7mo ago
  As in, I couldn't speak in my mind without making the bodily movements of speaking... Now I can, and do all the time.

idiotsecant 7mo ago

While I think this is true, if you're conciously forming phrases they are by definition not intrusive, the subject of the discussion.

volemo 7mo ago
Yes, indeed. My argument is the intrusive thoughts wouldn’t be internally verbalised, thus such a device, in my opinion, wouldn’t be able to spell them out.
- ksaj 7mo ago
  With me, they'd have 10 different things to parse. Some would be spot on. Some would be way the heck out in left field. And occasionally, some are totally obtrusive and definitely not meant to be spoken. Thoughts are intrusive when they get in the way of what you are trying to get out of a thought process.

Lerc 7mo ago

This is my experience too. I can rehearse words to say or simulate the conversation of others in my head. I just don't use words when I'm not doing wordy things myself. I didn't know the Comic strip Partially Clips was a pun until I told someone about the strip, then as soon as the words came out of my mouth realised the joke. On the other hand I can play back non verbal sounds I have heard in my head, which I think not everyone can do either. Not to the degree of my daughter though, I mentioned how I had noticed an ad was using a singer (not super famous but we knew who they were) and when I told her about it some days later her eyes went blank as she listened to it again and then she said, "Oh yes, it's Nataly" Brains are weird.

volemo 7mo ago
> This is my experience too. I can rehearse words to say or simulate the conversation of others in my head. I just don't use words when I'm not doing wordy things myself. Yep, same here. Most curiously though, I think I had an internal monologue in my childhood and teenage years, but sometime around 16–18 y.o. it went away. Sadly, I don’t remember the exact moment, as I’ve only learned about this topic around 20. > the Comic strip Partially Clips was a pun Whoah, took me a while too, even though you’ve explicitly told it’s there. xD > I can play back non verbal sounds I have heard in my head, which I think not everyone can do Nope, I can’t. (:
- ksaj 7mo ago
  I'm the opposite of you two. My brain won't stfu. I took Ritalin since grade 3 until I was in my 40's. That never got rid of it, but it did make it easier to focus in spite of all the chatter and other mental distractions. Now I'm old and lazy, and that seems to have a similar effect. The racing thoughts are still there, but they don't get in my way now that I have far fewer responsibilities to take care of.