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So they shaked hands with a long term NSA hardware contractor: https://www.motorolasolutions.com/newsroom/press-releases/national-security-agency-certifies-moto
by nunobrito 8mo ago
So they shaked hands with a long term NSA hardware contractor: https://www.motorolasolutions.com/newsroom/press-releases/national-security-agency-certifies-motorola-solutions-cryptr-2-broadband-ip.html https://www.motorolasolutions.com/newsroom/press-releases/na...
Fantastic. Very secure.
- karel-3d 8mo agoIsn't this Lenovo, a different thing from Mororola Solutions? edit: yeah it's a different Motorola. Unrelated companies in 2025. Android Motorola is owned by Lenovo, it's a Chinese brand
- abhinavk 8mo agoMotorola Mobility vs Motorola Solutions. Different companies. Different owners. Different nationalities.
- nunobrito 8mo agoGo ahead and trust them. I won't.
- gf000 8mo agoThen keep using your phone made from magic pixie dust, because we live in reality where you can't just grow out "the perfect" hardware company from a seed.
- nunobrito 8mo agoThere are other Android distributions without suspicious funding sources that don't force you into google-owned hardware, nor give you as second option to jump directly into NSA hardware suppliers.
- karel-3d 8mo agoBut they are not NSA hardware suppliers.
- nunobrito 8mo agoYes, they are. Since decades now. DYOR.
- strcat 8mo agoNo, you're mixing up entirely different companies. GrapheneOS is working with the Lenovo subsidiary.
- karel-3d 8mo agoIt's a different company. They just share the same name. You don't do your research properly. This is a Chinese-owned company, part of Lenovo. (I mostly don't trust them because they are Chinese-owned, but then, everything is made either in China or by China-friendly Foxconn so, whatever.)
- nunobrito 8mo agoPlease stop. Companies change ownership, contracts with customers don't. I seriouly hope you commented out of naivety rather than malice to fool others here.
- omnimus 8mo agoI would like to know what kind of phone you are using.
- nunobrito 8mo agoAt the moment this model: https://www.hotwav.com/products/hotwav-hyper-8-ultra-rugged-phone https://www.hotwav.com/products/hotwav-hyper-8-ultra-rugged-... with a modified Android based on LineageOS. Connects to the world using GSM and radio using satellites throught https://geogram.radio https://geogram.radio
- flexagoon 8mo agoSo your solution is using a dropshipped phone from a sketchy no-name Chinese company?
- kotaKat 8mo agoAnd I'm sure that Mediatek chipset has already been pre-backdoored for access by the folks at Cellebrite/Greykey/etc :|
- nunobrito 8mo agoNow provide a reliable link for that claim.
- nunobrito 8mo agoYes. You are arguing for absolute privacy, I am arguing for _more_ privacy than adopting well-known spyware devices. There is a difference.
- karel-3d 8mo agoIt's a different, unrelated company. You don't trust it because of a shared logo? The mobile motorola is a fully Chinese company that just shares the brand because of history. It's nonsense to not trust it because a different company does NSA stuff. This is a basically unrelated Chinese company!
- nunobrito 8mo agoVery different. Oh so different. That argument worked suprisingly well with boomers. Those with access to the internet in the last 20 years will find absolutely zero difference when a company changes ownership on the surface while retaining the previous business links.
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- strcat 8mo agoYou're mixing up 2 different companies descended from the original Motorola. Motorola Solutions is an entirely different company from Motorola Mobility with different owners. GrapheneOS is working with the company owned by Lenovo.