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Cheaper, quieter, smaller footprint for storage, can be easily brought up a few stairs or put in the back of your car (by one person), slower (a perceived safet

by mc3301 7mo ago

Cheaper, quieter, smaller footprint for storage, can be easily brought up a few stairs or put in the back of your car (by one person), slower (a perceived safety advantage by some, as most motorcycles can go highway speed), maintenance is less daunting (again, perceived), culture (perceived) as some people are quite turned off by motorcycle culture, and many many more. One of the major problems with ebikes is the existence of cars and related infra.

carlosjobim 7mo ago
Motorcycles have all those advantages against cars, except being able to bring them indoors. Yet people aren't all riding around on motorcycles. E-Bikes have their niche, but they're not going to replace cars, since motorcycles didn't. Motorcycle culture is something you choose if you participate in. If you're a lady commuting to work on a scooter, few people will expect you to participate in that.
- conductr 7mo ago
  I think they're significantly more approachable than ICE motorcycles. But, what they share is common and a major adoption hinderance in Western world - we just like dry safe climate controlled boxes a lot, it's comfortable. I think e-motos have a better chance of replacing cars than e-bikes ever do though. The scale of our cities and distance people travel almost necessitate the higher speeds. It will become more popular as economics force it, if the average car keeps costing more and groceries too, while wages stay pretty flat, well groceries will eventually win. Actually, the economic forces being what they are, have average car age at an all time high in the US [0]. It is likely that once these old cars die off; a large portion of people simply will not be able to afford new cars and at some point the supply of used cars will be insufficient and people will be forced to entertain cheaper alternatives. [0] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/average-u-s-vehicle-age-hits-record-12-6-years-as-high-prices-force-people-to-keep-them-longer https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/average-u-s-vehicle-age...

by mc3301 7mo ago

carlosjobim 7mo ago

Motorcycles have all those advantages against cars, except being able to bring them indoors. Yet people aren't all riding around on motorcycles. E-Bikes have their niche, but they're not going to replace cars, since motorcycles didn't. Motorcycle culture is something you choose if you participate in. If you're a lady commuting to work on a scooter, few people will expect you to participate in that.

conductr 7mo ago
I think they're significantly more approachable than ICE motorcycles. But, what they share is common and a major adoption hinderance in Western world - we just like dry safe climate controlled boxes a lot, it's comfortable. I think e-motos have a better chance of replacing cars than e-bikes ever do though. The scale of our cities and distance people travel almost necessitate the higher speeds. It will become more popular as economics force it, if the average car keeps costing more and groceries too, while wages stay pretty flat, well groceries will eventually win. Actually, the economic forces being what they are, have average car age at an all time high in the US [0]. It is likely that once these old cars die off; a large portion of people simply will not be able to afford new cars and at some point the supply of used cars will be insufficient and people will be forced to entertain cheaper alternatives. [0] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/average-u-s-vehicle-age-hits-record-12-6-years-as-high-prices-force-people-to-keep-them-longer https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/average-u-s-vehicle-age...