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I don't use Android because iPhones are more expensive. In fact you can get Android phones that are as expensive and sometimes more expensive than iPhones. I us
by kwanbix 8mo ago
I don't use Android because iPhones are more expensive. In fact you can get Android phones that are as expensive and sometimes more expensive than iPhones. I use Android phones because it is a much more flexible ecosystem, where I can choose my browser, for example.
- krick 8mo agoExactly what I was going to say. I don't use iPhone because, well, it's iPhone. And until, like, this year, it was strictly more prohibitive than Android. Also, it was honestly just worse of a device than some Android flagships, and the tradeoff is only worth it if you are a lazy USA-ian, who doesn't use any "sketchier" non-mainstream apps, has an Apple account and owns a bunch of Apple devices anyway. Oh, and all your friends use iPhone Messages app. Then iPhone is the default. But outside of USA it was always more of a gimmick than a natural choice. That being said, even if you wouldn't have said it before me, I probably shouldn't have said it too anyway, because I suspect that globally speaking the GP is right. Most people don't buy flagships, yet everybody has a phone. And Apple doesn't even try to compete in "non-premium" market, it's strictly impossible to buy a new iPhone for the price of some Redmi or whatever, which isn't even noticeably worse than an iPhone, practically speaking.
- daliusd 8mo agoI have 5 years old iPhone SE2020 that is relatively cheap having in mind that is 5 years old. None of Androids served me that long. Only Motorola tried, but water killed it. Water has not killed iPhone when my son threw it into pond. Which Android is that good, practically speaking?
- malnourish 8mo agoMy wife uses a OnePlus 8t (about as old as your phone) daily. It's survived drops, tubs, etc.
- jack_pp 8mo agoI have a S21 which was released in early 2022. Bought it new in late 2023 for 430€. I don't see any reason to get a new one currently. Had to service it twice for water damage to be honest but service was free
- daliusd 8mo agoOK I had Samsung that was OK. Later after upgrades it became unusable, but that's it.
- socalgal2 8mo ago> relatively cheap relative to an iPhone Pro, yes. Relative to many other phones, No. It shipped at $399. You can buy 4 to 12 android phones for that price. I'm an iPhone user but my sister and her family are Android.
- daliusd 8mo agoI doubt I would get the same quality and reliability. Good Android phones are equally expensive and it is very hard to know which are actually good without doing research. As well I had bad experience with some Google Pixel model.
- socalgal2 7mo agoThat is always the excuse people bring up to ignore the point. You can spend $1000 on a fancy chefs knife, or you can spend $30 on an Ikea chefs knife. Sure, the $1000 knife is higher quality. Yet, millions of people are still doing just find with the Ikea knife. A cheap car will still get you to/from work over an expensive "higher quality" car. Lots of families don't have money to buy an iPhone for every member of the family but do have enough to buy an Android for every member of the family.
- daliusd 7mo agoSorry, but it is not fair analogy. It is comparison of ikea knife vs cheap chinese knife that breaks after 10 uses.
- beagle3 8mo agoI am typing this on a 9 year old iPhone 8 Plus. Battery was replaced once after 6 years, replacement battery is still lasting more than a day. Apps are slowly losing support for it, but other than that it mostly does what I want, and still gets security updates for really bad stuff. Is there a comparably usable 9 year old android?
- dhosek 8mo agoI’m very much the inverse of you. I don’t use Android because I don’t want to have to worry about all the fiddly stuff that is involved with Android. I like that it’s not a big deal to migrate to a new phone, that I don’t have to worry about whether I’ll be able to get security updates in a year, or have to spend time disabling telemetry. If I did want to do a lot of fiddling with the phone then sure, Android would be a better choice, but like I had said back in 2004, what I wanted more than anything else was a phone that would sync its contacts with my Mac.
- SoftTalker 8mo agoFor me a new phone is a forced cleanup. I don't migrate anything automatically.
- crazygringo 8mo agoObviously that's a ton more work, and not something most people have any desire to do. They just want to upgrade their phone and have all their data and apps migrate seamlessly.
- ghaff 8mo agoEspecially if someone needs to get and setup a new phone in a hurry for whatever reason. Yes, it's sometimes good to do a spring cleaning but I'm not always in a position to do so (or have the desire to).
- badc0ffee 8mo agoSpeaking for myself, I've been auto migrating since I got an iPhone 3GS in 2009. The only thing that needs serious cleanup is my music library.
- eloisant 8mo agoThe idea that Android needs tinkering of fiddling needs to die. 80% of users in the world use Android, and most of them don't do any tinkering or fiddling.
- pibaker 8mo agoI don't mean to dismiss your opinion but I doubt this is the reason android has such a huge market share. I doubt the average person even knows that apple forces every app to use apple's own browser. The countries where android dominate are also the ones where you can get phone plans with free data for WhatsApp and Facebook. There is an entire world outside our techie circles where price and UX trumps having principles about user control and freedom.
- ilvez 8mo agolol I even didn't know that I couldn't use Firefox in iPhone. Does this really fly in EU as well? How?
- halapro 8mo agoBy law third party engines are allowed since like 2024, geoblocked to the EU, but I haven't seen any news of browsers actually doing that. I think a number of other countries are starting to enforce that, like South Korea or Japan.
- ilvez 8mo agoOh yeah, now I recall.. Fx in ios is just a shell
- dotancohen 8mo agoOr sync your contacts to a CardDav server. Or record a phone call. Or develop your own software (for the time being).