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The Google hate virus is thick here. It seems uncontroversial that users will likely want to use AI to find info for them and do things for them. So either Goog

The Google hate virus is thick here. It seems uncontroversial that users will likely want to use AI to find info for them and do things for them. So either Google provides users with what they want or they go out of business to some other company that provides what users want. https://www.perplexity.ai/comet https://www.perplexity.ai/comet https://chatgpt.com/atlas/ https://chatgpt.com/atlas/ https://arc.net/max https://arc.net/max That is not in any way to suggest companies are ok to do bad things. I don't see anything bad here. I just see the inevitable. People are going to want to ask some AI for whatever they used to get from the internet. Many are already doing this. Who ever enables that for users best will get the users.

maximinus_thrax 8mo ago
> It seems uncontroversial that users will likely want to use AI to find info for them and do things for them Lots of weasel words in there. You're doing a lot of work with "seems", "uncontroversial" and "likely". Power users and tech professionals probably want this or their bosses really want this and they fall in line. But a large portion of the 'normal' users still struggle with basic search, distrust AI or just don't trust to delegating tasks to opaque systems they can't inspect. "Users" is not a monolith.
- socalgal2 8mo ago
  Is the opposite. Only HNers distrust AI. The "normies" love it and are far less skeptical. Few of them recognize when it's messing up.
  - drawfloat 8mo ago
    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/10/15/how-people-around-the-world-view-ai/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/10/15/how-people-aro... Patently false, a slim minority in all countries is more optimistic than they are sceptical.
  - maximinus_thrax 8mo ago
    > The "normies" love it and are far less skeptical. Few of them recognize when it's messing up. This is not a discussion about accuracy. The market disagrees with you. Microsoft tried to shove AI into their user base with mixed results.
    - socalgal2 8mo ago
      Yep, no one likes AI https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/04/openai-chatgpt-700-million-users.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/04/openai-chatgpt-700-million-u...
ceejayoz 8mo ago
> Who ever enables that for users best will get the users. And if it's anything like Uber, that'll be when the enshittification really kicks into gear.

maximinus_thrax 8mo ago

> It seems uncontroversial that users will likely want to use AI to find info for them and do things for them Lots of weasel words in there. You're doing a lot of work with "seems", "uncontroversial" and "likely". Power users and tech professionals probably want this or their bosses really want this and they fall in line. But a large portion of the 'normal' users still struggle with basic search, distrust AI or just don't trust to delegating tasks to opaque systems they can't inspect. "Users" is not a monolith.

socalgal2 8mo ago
Is the opposite. Only HNers distrust AI. The "normies" love it and are far less skeptical. Few of them recognize when it's messing up.
- drawfloat 8mo ago
  https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/10/15/how-people-around-the-world-view-ai/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/10/15/how-people-aro... Patently false, a slim minority in all countries is more optimistic than they are sceptical.
- maximinus_thrax 8mo ago
  > The "normies" love it and are far less skeptical. Few of them recognize when it's messing up. This is not a discussion about accuracy. The market disagrees with you. Microsoft tried to shove AI into their user base with mixed results.
  - socalgal2 8mo ago
    Yep, no one likes AI https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/04/openai-chatgpt-700-million-users.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/04/openai-chatgpt-700-million-u...

ceejayoz 8mo ago

> Who ever enables that for users best will get the users. And if it's anything like Uber, that'll be when the enshittification really kicks into gear.