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Are you really asking whether corporations can be sued?

plagiarist 8mo ago
It might be possible. Would have to be by someone who hadn't signed the binding arbitration, though.
wnevets 8mo ago
And have actual meaningful consequences happen? I'am. Twitter is creating CSAM, Meta & OpenAI pirate millions of books and Nvidia is playing some sort of shell game to pump their stock price. If a regular person committed any of those offenses once they would be lucky to just to be sued but because of "AI" nothing happens to these companies.
- gruez 8mo ago
  Going through each of the cases: >Twitter is creating CSAM It's unclear whether generated CSAM is illegal, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_pornography_depicting_minors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_porn.... Moreover x/x.ai wasn't intentionally generating the images. Yes, someone intentionally set up grok to generate images, but nobody at x/x.ai was like "yes, let's generate some CSAM". That adds an additional layer of obfuscation that makes it harder to compare to a "regular person". >Meta & OpenAI pirate millions of books Give me a break. People on /r/datahoarders pirate millions of books all the time. Use a VPN and basically nobody bothers going after you. If anything Meta/OpenAI are getting harsher treatment than the average person because they're juicier defendants. >Nvidia is playing some sort of shell game to pump their stock price That's not even something that's illegal.
  - wnevets 8mo ago
    > It's unclear whether generated CSAM is illegal, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_porn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_porn We both know you don't actually believe that because neither of us would post generated CSAM. > That adds an additional layer of obfuscation that makes it harder to compare to a "regular person". That is literally my point?
  - wnevets 7mo ago
    > Give me a break. People on /r/datahoarders pirate millions of books all the time. Use a VPN and basically nobody bothers going after you. If anything Meta/OpenAI are getting harsher treatment than the average person because they're juicier defendants. Arguing that a regular person needs to conceal their real identity with a VPN to pirate books is proof these companies aren't receiving special treatment for committing the same crimes is very confusing to me. We know the identity of the companies committing the crimes.

It might be possible. Would have to be by someone who hadn't signed the binding arbitration, though.

And have actual meaningful consequences happen? I'am. Twitter is creating CSAM, Meta & OpenAI pirate millions of books and Nvidia is playing some sort of shell game to pump their stock price. If a regular person committed any of those offenses once they would be lucky to just to be sued but because of "AI" nothing happens to these companies.

gruez 8mo ago
Going through each of the cases: >Twitter is creating CSAM It's unclear whether generated CSAM is illegal, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_pornography_depicting_minors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_porn.... Moreover x/x.ai wasn't intentionally generating the images. Yes, someone intentionally set up grok to generate images, but nobody at x/x.ai was like "yes, let's generate some CSAM". That adds an additional layer of obfuscation that makes it harder to compare to a "regular person". >Meta & OpenAI pirate millions of books Give me a break. People on /r/datahoarders pirate millions of books all the time. Use a VPN and basically nobody bothers going after you. If anything Meta/OpenAI are getting harsher treatment than the average person because they're juicier defendants. >Nvidia is playing some sort of shell game to pump their stock price That's not even something that's illegal.
- wnevets 8mo ago
  > It's unclear whether generated CSAM is illegal, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_porn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_porn We both know you don't actually believe that because neither of us would post generated CSAM. > That adds an additional layer of obfuscation that makes it harder to compare to a "regular person". That is literally my point?
- wnevets 7mo ago
  > Give me a break. People on /r/datahoarders pirate millions of books all the time. Use a VPN and basically nobody bothers going after you. If anything Meta/OpenAI are getting harsher treatment than the average person because they're juicier defendants. Arguing that a regular person needs to conceal their real identity with a VPN to pirate books is proof these companies aren't receiving special treatment for committing the same crimes is very confusing to me. We know the identity of the companies committing the crimes.