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The most interesting thing to me is that he was apparently assassinated while working at his office. It's not like the US/Israeli actions were a secret, yet he
by somenameforme 8mo ago
The most interesting thing to me is that he was apparently assassinated while working at his office. It's not like the US/Israeli actions were a secret, yet he seemingly made no effort to secure himself. It's hard not to see this as an intentional martyrdom. So it will be interesting to see whether his calculations were correct, or whether the US' were.
The one thing I think must be true is that I can't imagine an 86 year old cleric was an especially effective leader. So assassinating him is quite the gamble. I'd love to know what the military's chatbots thought about this idea.
- Cipater 8mo ago>I'd love to know what the military's chatbots thought about this idea. What a mad world we're hurtling ourselves into.
- mindslight 8mo ago"You're thinking about this just like a professional warfighter would" I'd say the main contemporary dynamic of the times is hallucination. Not necessary by LLMs per se, but rather by the humans wielding them to mainline their own bullshit. In a way Grump himself is just society's own embodied hallucination from decades of Republican marketing hopium. Some scraps of dignity are surely about to trickle down any day now, once those mean libuhruls are out of the way. (the "warfighter" terminology-coddling obviously coming from the user prompt)
- wiseowise 8mo agoProphets are more dangerous when they're dead. At 86 he would either die from old age or fighting "imperialistic, evil" Israel/US.
- _DeadFred_ 8mo agoThis Prophet believed/taught that school girls should be raped before they are executed for not wearing hats so that they can't get into heaven (believing God would judge a child for being raped). Should a believer/teacher of such things even be called a prophet? Old boy was straight trash with a horrific morality.
- estearum 8mo agoAFAICT nearly everyone who is called a "prophet" by anyone is horrible, no? Doesn't stop people from killing or dying in their name though.
- somenameforme 8mo agoI can't think of anybody, who has significant power, who isn't seen as horrible by somebody else, and often by quite a lot of somebody elses. With power people always end up trying to make the world a better place. The problem is one man's better place is another's dystopia.
- arunabha 8mo ago> Should a believer/teacher of such things even be called a prophet? Old boy was straight trash with a horrific morality. Sadly, that has been a fairly common attribute for a fairly large majority of people anointed as 'prophets' and 'saints'.
- cogman10 8mo agoHe's not a prophet and he didn't teach that. You don't need to lie about someone you don't like.
- hu3 8mo agoI have no horse in this race but I did find some daunting google results about that.
- cogman10 8mo agoI'd love to see a link to them. My cursory googles aren't finding it. Look, not trying to defend the guy, but I don't like this sort of hyperbole. People have the wrong view on what Iran is like. It's ran by religious fundamentalists, which is bad, but it's also probably one of the more progressive muslim theocracies in the region. People tend to mix up shit that Saudi Arabia does with Iran. In particular, Iran has a very progressive view on education. They have one of the best educated populations in the middle east (men and women).
- dotancohen 8mo agoWhy would you assume that someone with decades of experience could not be an effective leader?
- throwaway173738 8mo agoPeople lose cognition as they age.
- sethev 8mo agoAnd gain experience
- simmerup 8mo agoBut dude was 86, how many people in nursing homes would you trust to run a country?
- dotancohen 8mo agoProbably one in a thousand. But as one whom the Ayatollah has sworn to eliminate, I can still state that man was sharp and brilliant and extremely well spoken. His worldview was internally consistent. He had vision and experience and knew how to motivate people. He was a one in ten million leader. I give him that praise and more, even recognising that his stated mission was to exterminate myself and my children.
- maybelsyrup 8mo ago> But as one whom the Ayatollah has sworn to eliminate What does this mean — did you stick him with the bill at all restaurant or something?
- justsomehnguy 8mo agoEven If you don't recognize the last name you can just click on the user info and make 2 + 2.
- urikaduri 8mo agoHe was assasinated during a meeting with many other high ranking members of the regime. I doubt they decided on collective suicide.
- ifwinterco 8mo agoSupposedly he had a very deep bunker under his house but he came up for meetings. So the real problem for Iran is that mossad seem to know exactly when he was vulnerable i.e. there are spies within the inner circles of the IRGC Edit: Or some very effective high tech surveillance, but that's also not good news to put it mildly
- throwawayheui57 8mo ago> intentional martyrdom He didn’t play 4D chess. I’d bet on pure hubris.