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I think you're in the wrong ecosystem if you don't like animations. Over the top animations have been at the core of Apple, I still remember the "drop in the wa

by halapro 7mo ago

I think you're in the wrong ecosystem if you don't like animations. Over the top animations have been at the core of Apple, I still remember the "drop in the water" animation of OS X Tiger's Dashboard. 20 years ago.

dijit 7mo ago
I think you're overselling it, the minimise? Sure. But I can't think of a single animation that added a delay to processing on MacOS. Compare to say, Windows, at least.
- dzink 7mo ago
  Try Liquid Glass on iphone. Absolutely horrible if you don’t turn off all the motion.
  - fooster 7mo ago
    I don't find that to be the case.
  - bee_rider 7mo ago
    The changes of Liquid Glass are the what everyone is complaining about, right? Previously they were OK at designing UI.
  - bryzaguy 7mo ago
    I was really nervous about the update to Liquid Glass based on comments like this but my experience has been really positive. I love the new contextual tooltip menu when I try to select text and other thoughtful details. Maybe there’s things I’m not bumping into?
  - Oreb 7mo ago
    I honestly don’t understand why Liquid Glass provokes so strong reactions. To me it’s not that radically different from the old design. I don’t love it, and I don’t hate it. There is nothing new that in any way impacts how I use or experience my iPhone, my iPad or my Mac. My reaction to Liquid Glass was pretty much a neutral “looks a little bit different, I guess” before forgetting about it.
    - misiek08 7mo ago
      For me it was (or is) funny. After update I had a lot of controls in the same color as background. Wondering why I can’t do some actions I took my friends phone and built in apps looked different than mine. Photos didn’t even show the top bar. Rebooted - I have it! Then photos started crashing every few days and I’m not heavy user. Currently I’m fed up, because Camera starts up once per 20-30 runs for more than 10 seconds (I wait to see if it will start in the end). I was hater of Apple, then switched around 2018 to be happy user until 2025. Looking for Android brand that allows loading clean system to not get bad experience after few months like with Shitsung.
- lynndotpy 7mo ago
  Switching desktops on MacOS is a >1 second long animation that blocks input which can't be disabled. It can only be replaced with a fade in/out which is just as long.
  - exitb 7mo ago
    Unless you disable ProMotion in favor of static 60Hz. Then it’s reasonably fast again. It’s been broken like that for ages.
    - dieulot 7mo ago
      No, it’s >1 second on every machine.
      - exitb 7mo ago
        I don’t know about your particular case, but there’s lots of people pointing to this exact issue. https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/438188/latency-when-switching-between-spaces https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/438188/latency-whe...
dzink 7mo ago
I use their accessibility features to stop all animations I can. Maybe if more people upvote here they will hear us. No point in suffering in silence.
- lynndotpy 7mo ago
  I agree with this entirely: > no latency from brain to action is the greatest design you can possibly have. We want to feel one with the machine. But... I used Windows growing up before switching to Linux, and I've been using a Macbook in recent years. Both Windows and Linux can be configured to run with no animation lag, but AFAIK this is just not possible in MacOS. I can't imagine doing anything serious on MacOS with animation log completely interrupting my train of thought or flow state. I'm no Windows fan, but at least circa 2019, I know Windows 10 could be configured to be similarly snappy and free of laggy animations. The greatest sin in MacOS is the immense lag when switching desktops ("Spaces"). It's a baffling design decision, I can't believe it's intentional.
  - freetonik 7mo ago
    The speed of the desktop switching animation also depends on the refresh rate of the monitor, by the way. Baffling.
  - Citizen_Lame 7mo ago
    Same applies to iPhones. Lag (animation) between action and result drives me crazy. Accessibility settings don't help much. At least Android still allows you to set animation scale, for now.
- p_ing 7mo ago
  Of course “Apple” isn’t listening here. Leave the upvote begging to reddit. Apple has proper channels for this, including https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos/ https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos/. Given Apple has provided a workaround, don’t expect any changes.
  - bartread 7mo ago

by halapro 7mo ago

dijit 7mo ago

I think you're overselling it, the minimise? Sure. But I can't think of a single animation that added a delay to processing on MacOS. Compare to say, Windows, at least.

dzink 7mo ago
Try Liquid Glass on iphone. Absolutely horrible if you don’t turn off all the motion.
- fooster 7mo ago
  I don't find that to be the case.
- bee_rider 7mo ago
  The changes of Liquid Glass are the what everyone is complaining about, right? Previously they were OK at designing UI.
- bryzaguy 7mo ago
  I was really nervous about the update to Liquid Glass based on comments like this but my experience has been really positive. I love the new contextual tooltip menu when I try to select text and other thoughtful details. Maybe there’s things I’m not bumping into?
- Oreb 7mo ago
  I honestly don’t understand why Liquid Glass provokes so strong reactions. To me it’s not that radically different from the old design. I don’t love it, and I don’t hate it. There is nothing new that in any way impacts how I use or experience my iPhone, my iPad or my Mac. My reaction to Liquid Glass was pretty much a neutral “looks a little bit different, I guess” before forgetting about it.
  - misiek08 7mo ago
    For me it was (or is) funny. After update I had a lot of controls in the same color as background. Wondering why I can’t do some actions I took my friends phone and built in apps looked different than mine. Photos didn’t even show the top bar. Rebooted - I have it! Then photos started crashing every few days and I’m not heavy user. Currently I’m fed up, because Camera starts up once per 20-30 runs for more than 10 seconds (I wait to see if it will start in the end). I was hater of Apple, then switched around 2018 to be happy user until 2025. Looking for Android brand that allows loading clean system to not get bad experience after few months like with Shitsung.
lynndotpy 7mo ago
Switching desktops on MacOS is a >1 second long animation that blocks input which can't be disabled. It can only be replaced with a fade in/out which is just as long.
- exitb 7mo ago
  Unless you disable ProMotion in favor of static 60Hz. Then it’s reasonably fast again. It’s been broken like that for ages.
  - dieulot 7mo ago
    No, it’s >1 second on every machine.
    - exitb 7mo ago
      I don’t know about your particular case, but there’s lots of people pointing to this exact issue. https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/438188/latency-when-switching-between-spaces https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/438188/latency-whe...

dzink 7mo ago

I use their accessibility features to stop all animations I can. Maybe if more people upvote here they will hear us. No point in suffering in silence.

lynndotpy 7mo ago
I agree with this entirely: > no latency from brain to action is the greatest design you can possibly have. We want to feel one with the machine. But... I used Windows growing up before switching to Linux, and I've been using a Macbook in recent years. Both Windows and Linux can be configured to run with no animation lag, but AFAIK this is just not possible in MacOS. I can't imagine doing anything serious on MacOS with animation log completely interrupting my train of thought or flow state. I'm no Windows fan, but at least circa 2019, I know Windows 10 could be configured to be similarly snappy and free of laggy animations. The greatest sin in MacOS is the immense lag when switching desktops ("Spaces"). It's a baffling design decision, I can't believe it's intentional.
- freetonik 7mo ago
  The speed of the desktop switching animation also depends on the refresh rate of the monitor, by the way. Baffling.
- Citizen_Lame 7mo ago
  Same applies to iPhones. Lag (animation) between action and result drives me crazy. Accessibility settings don't help much. At least Android still allows you to set animation scale, for now.
p_ing 7mo ago
Of course “Apple” isn’t listening here. Leave the upvote begging to reddit. Apple has proper channels for this, including https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos/ https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos/. Given Apple has provided a workaround, don’t expect any changes.
- bartread 7mo ago